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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:11 am 
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Privatisation might have worked for the bosses,wealthy shareholders but not for the consumers,were paying more for the same if not worse in most cases.A fitting legacy from the old hag M T !


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:17 am 
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GBC wrote:
I agree with Terry, everything public that's been privatised either ends up as an unmitigated disaster,or cost the taxpayer twice what it used to under public ownership.

Utilities, hospitals, prisons (group 4), trains . . .

In London they've had two private companies go tits up after taking over the fire brigades fleet, they're now on the third mob, all costing millions.

Shove privatisation up your arse Cameron, it doesn't work.


what an astute chap you are and too the rest of you morons hes organised LTDA probably and earns proper dough his mob will perform not GROVELL :D

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:18 am 
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I agree with Terry.



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Thing is, silly abuse aside, he makes some sensible comments.

Certainly better reading than the one liner crew, most of whom are on my ignore list ( great addition to the forum )



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:26 pm 
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I like the way all the "industry and services" trotted out as cases for nationalisation are the ones started with private money and wrecked by the unions once the got their manipulative power mad claws into them

British Leyland
Railways
Steel
Shipyards
Collieries

Without the original private investors they couldnt have existed

the unions fooked us up once, god forbid they get a second chance to do the same

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:45 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I like the way all the "industry and services" trotted out as cases for nationalisation are the ones started with private money and wrecked by the unions once the got their manipulative power mad claws into them

British Leyland
Railways
Steel
Shipyards
Collieries

Without the original private investors they couldnt have existed

the unions fooked us up once, god forbid they get a second chance to do the same

Greedy bosses and thatcher fecked what was left of industry.Take a look at Germany well unionised and a leading economy they make/manufacture their own goods and buy them.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:51 pm 
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what an astute chap you are and too the rest of you morons hes organised LTDA probably and earns proper dough his mob will perform not GROVELL :D


I'm in the RMT taxi branch nowadays, largely due to a shift in views on my part, but mainly because the guys running the branch nowadays are known to me, and are doing an excellent job.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:02 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
I like the way all the "industry and services" trotted out as cases for nationalisation are the ones started with private money and wrecked by the unions once the got their manipulative power mad claws into them

British Leyland
Railways
Steel
Shipyards
Collieries

Without the original private investors they couldnt have existed

the unions fooked us up once, god forbid they get a second chance to do the same

Greedy bosses and thatcher fecked what was left of industry.Take a look at Germany well unionised and a leading economy they make/manufacture their own goods and buy them.


Have they ever brought a business to its knees that its members worked in? Red Robb, Scargill, etc....

half of Germany was communist till the wall came down and didnt have unions did they?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:15 pm 
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GBC wrote:
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Utilities, hospitals, prisons (group 4), trains . . .

Trains are better now than they ever were.

British Steel and British Leyland? You really want them syphoning billions of taxpayers money? :lol:



The trains should be better, they're twice the price of anywhere else in Europe. :roll:

But are they better? I suspect a few million commuters would disagree.



Not according to the approval ratings apparently !! I must admit our local line is much improved under the current operator than it was when central trains ran it and seems to be attracting higher patronage judging by the numbers coming off the trains

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:18 pm 
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No company should be making a profit when the tax payer is propping them up.

There is an easy solution - End all subsidies.

The public can then take it on when the fat cats have gone bust.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:48 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
No company should be making a profit when the tax payer is propping them up.

There is an easy solution - End all subsidies.

The public can then take it on when the fat cats have gone bust.



I wasn't aware that these nationalised industries were designed to make a profit.......and it they did, the shareholders (which is the general public) would be the beneficiaries.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:01 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
gusmac wrote:
No company should be making a profit when the tax payer is propping them up.

There is an easy solution - End all subsidies.

The public can then take it on when the fat cats have gone bust.



I wasn't aware that these nationalised industries were designed to make a profit.......and it they did, the shareholders (which is the general public) would be the beneficiaries.


I'm talking about privatised industries such as the railways.

What are you on about :?

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gusmac wrote:
captain cab wrote:
gusmac wrote:
No company should be making a profit when the tax payer is propping them up.

There is an easy solution - End all subsidies.

The public can then take it on when the fat cats have gone bust.



I wasn't aware that these nationalised industries were designed to make a profit.......and it they did, the shareholders (which is the general public) would be the beneficiaries.


I'm talking about privatised industries such as the railways.

What are you on about :?


I find it very chuckle worthy that anyone thinks of the rail network as something that needs to be nationalised, it was never meant to be state owned

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:53 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
No company should be making a profit when the tax payer is propping them up.

There is an easy solution - End all subsidies.

The public can then take it on when the fat cats have gone bust.


PMSL. passenger fares would rise, freight would avoid it even more and lines would be shut, but at least the steam enthusiasts would have new lines to rescue


a bunch of taxi drivers, mainly with 1 car, know how to run a rail network, fecking priceless....

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:57 pm 
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I think essentially the only things that need to be nationalised are power for heat & light etc, water and medical care. Private options should be available in all aspects of needs and wants. What I don't agree with are private companies being subsidised so they can make profits

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:03 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
gusmac wrote:
No company should be making a profit when the tax payer is propping them up.

There is an easy solution - End all subsidies.

The public can then take it on when the fat cats have gone bust.


PMSL. passenger fares would rise, freight would avoid it even more and lines would be shut, but at least the steam enthusiasts would have new lines to rescue


a bunch of taxi drivers, mainly with 1 car, know how to run a rail network, fecking priceless....

As opposed to a tory ex miner,now thats a contradiction in itself ! :roll: lol


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