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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:30 pm 
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I'd say anyone putting images of the prophet on TDO obviously doesn't like TDO very much - please remove the image.


It's a cartoon, and that's the whole point. Why should a cartoon be a problem to anyone? #-o Don't tell me you of all people CC, are being sucked into this nonsense. #-o

What about the Catholic cartoon of the pedophile priests?

So Islam is to be give a privileged position here in the UK, so we are, in fact, living in an Islamic state? #-o #-o #-o #-o



Not at all - I just don't want to see people who post images such as the ones you've posted - or the nice folks that are responsible for TDO - murdered.


So putting up images of young soldiers with their heads hacked off is considered okay, but cartoons are out on the bases it might provoke an Islamic extremist to murder someone? You do see the problem here CC?

So everyone has to show tolerance to Islam, but we should also fear for our lives just in case some Islamic nut job takes offense?

Perhaps we should just let the terrorists win, how about that CC, do you feel safer now? #-o


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I think Sunday School should be the place to teach religion, having said that the history surrounding religion should surely be included in the curriculum at schools. I don't believe there should be faith schools because it seems to me one way of segregating children and pointing out the difference. They say ignorance is bliss and I think this is one of the occasions that that particular statement is true, when we don't know the religious beliefs of a person we are less likely to judge them based on that belief and more likely to befriend them before we decide if we like them and want them part of our life.


I don't think anyone should be taught religion. I think if someone develops an interest in religion they should be allowed to learn about it. And if they want to have some sort of faith based or spiritual belief, then that's their choice.

However, teaching religion to impressionable young children and forcing them to pray to some supernatural being, is nothing short of brainwashing, and that's child abuse, whichever way you want to cut it. :-|


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:52 pm 
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This will probably incite someone to chop my head off but in the interest of tolerance, I'll take the risk. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:14 pm 
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I think Sunday School should be the place to teach religion, having said that the history surrounding religion should surely be included in the curriculum at schools. I don't believe there should be faith schools because it seems to me one way of segregating children and pointing out the difference. They say ignorance is bliss and I think this is one of the occasions that that particular statement is true, when we don't know the religious beliefs of a person we are less likely to judge them based on that belief and more likely to befriend them before we decide if we like them and want them part of our life.


I don't think anyone should be taught religion. I think if someone develops an interest in religion they should be allowed to learn about it. And if they want to have some sort of faith based or spiritual belief, then that's their choice.

However, teaching religion to impressionable young children and forcing them to pray to some supernatural being, is nothing short of brainwashing, and that's child abuse, whichever way you want to cut it. :-|


How do you develop an interest in something if you're not introduced to it? We could potentially have lots of children celebrating Christmas but not knowing why, oh the joy of not having to have the expense of Christmas every year :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:39 pm 
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And how do you come by that little nugget Sussex? You do realise, that I am talking about teaching children by way of the educational curriculum and Science as apposed to faith and believing in supernatural beings?

I came by that little nugget by hearing what I hear, seeing what I see, and having what I hear and see confirmed by Ofsted.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:42 pm 
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Tell me Sussex, do you have faith in fairies at the bottom of the garden or an omnipotent being, in the sky, which is it? #-o Oh and btw, where did you get your information? #-o

I think you are wrong to equate fairies at the bottom of the garden with people's religious beliefs.

All the people that I come across, who have serious religious beliefs, are good and honest people.

They are not nutters, just good people.

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How many practicing people of faith do you know?

Loads.

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toots wrote:
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I think Sunday School should be the place to teach religion, having said that the history surrounding religion should surely be included in the curriculum at schools. I don't believe there should be faith schools because it seems to me one way of segregating children and pointing out the difference. They say ignorance is bliss and I think this is one of the occasions that that particular statement is true, when we don't know the religious beliefs of a person we are less likely to judge them based on that belief and more likely to befriend them before we decide if we like them and want them part of our life.


I don't think anyone should be taught religion. I think if someone develops an interest in religion they should be allowed to learn about it. And if they want to have some sort of faith based or spiritual belief, then that's their choice.

However, teaching religion to impressionable young children and forcing them to pray to some supernatural being, is nothing short of brainwashing, and that's child abuse, whichever way you want to cut it. :-|


How do you develop an interest in something if you're not introduced to it? We could potentially have lots of children celebrating Christmas but not knowing why, oh the joy of not having to have the expense of Christmas every year :lol:


So you don't see hacking peoples heads off as enough of an introduction to religion? What do you suggest, throwing people to the Lions just to wet a youngster's appetite? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:47 pm 
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Can you imagine any of these religious types allowing their children to subject their religion to scientific inquiry?

You must live in a bubble of your own.

I know plenty of what some would say are 'bible bashers', and none of them are as stupid to not let them study science.

You are painting everything as black and white, you are either a religious nutter or an atheist nutter.

The real world ain't like that.

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So you don't see hacking peoples heads off as enough of an introduction to religion? What do you suggest, throwing people to the Lions just to wet a youngster's appetite? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

There are approx seven billion people on this planet, what % of them are activity cutting people's head off?

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Tell me Sussex, do you have faith in fairies at the bottom of the garden or an omnipotent being, in the sky, which is it? #-o Oh and btw, where did you get your information? #-o

I think you are wrong to equate fairies at the bottom of the garden with people's religious beliefs.

All the people that I come across, who have serious religious beliefs, are good and honest people.

They are not nutters, just good people.


Alright, I'll give you that, they are good honest nutters who believe in supernatural beings. :roll:

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I think you will find Sussex, the evidence for fairies existing at the bottom of one's garden, is exactly the same for supernatural beings floating around in the sky watching everything that you do. #-o

I'm tying to find a word which sums up these beliefs, eh now let me think...it's Bollocks!! #-o


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Sussex wrote:
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So you don't see hacking peoples heads off as enough of an introduction to religion? What do you suggest, throwing people to the Lions just to wet a youngster's appetite? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

There are approx seven billion people on this planet, what % of them are activity cutting people's head off?


Does it matter? You would need to be living on the moon to avoid the extremes of religion as an introduction to religion. #-o


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Can you imagine any of these religious types allowing their children to subject their religion to scientific inquiry?

You must live in a bubble of your own.

I know plenty of what some would say are 'bible bashers', and none of them are as stupid to not let them study science.

You are painting everything as black and white, you are either a religious nutter or an atheistic nutter.

The real world ain't like that.


Oh I see, because I don't believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden or supernatural beings in the sky, I'm either a religious or an atheistic nutter?

You do see the contradiction here now don't you Sussex? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Strangely enough Sussex, I didn't have you pegged as someone who believed in the big juju in the sky. #-o


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