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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:09 pm 
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No grandad is right its the same person. the same dirty bagstard that was txtn 13 year old girls and aranging to meet them at midnight. Its all there in black and white. how anyone can even think that hes been treated unfairly is just beyond me

I would imagine that most things are beyond you. Try being capable of your own thoughts for once. Read George Orwell you might learn something.Failing that just stay with the baying lynch mob were you belong.


Yes your right everything is beyond me and im as thick as they come and even with the attention span of a gnat and the intelegence of a lemon i know its not right for a grown man to be txting 13 year old girls and aranging to meet them at midnight. Now you on the otherhand after reading orwell must be a very inteligent man and no doubt very well educated and yet cant see anything wrong in his behaviour.. Maybe you should start a petition to get his badge back for him and lets even get him a school run. Or maybe you should just have a good hard look in the mirror and figure out what it is that makes you think that way because that is not normal behaviour


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:36 pm 
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The correct thing would have been to let the police investigate this guy, if they (or the CPS) considered they have the chance of a successful prosecution then he should have been charged and granted his right to a trial, then he could have been found guilty by due process (grooming is an offence) but this smacks of a lynch mob plus hes no longer licensed but isnt on the sex offenders register as he would have been if charged and found guilty

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:47 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
The correct thing would have been to let the police investigate this guy, if they (or the CPS) considered they have the chance of a successful prosecution then he should have been charged and granted his right to a trial, then he could have been found guilty by due process (grooming is an offence) but this smacks of a lynch mob plus hes no longer licensed but isnt on the sex offenders register as he would have been if charged and found guilty


So do you and billybob think its ok for him to txt young girls and arange to meet them and that he should be allowed to continue picking vunrable people up


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:26 am 
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townhalltaxis wrote:
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The correct thing would have been to let the police investigate this guy, if they (or the CPS) considered they have the chance of a successful prosecution then he should have been charged and granted his right to a trial, then he could have been found guilty by due process (grooming is an offence) but this smacks of a lynch mob plus hes no longer licensed but isnt on the sex offenders register as he would have been if charged and found guilty


So do you and billybob think its ok for him to txt young girls and arange to meet them and that he should be allowed to continue picking vunrable people up

No we don't. We happen to believe in due process and justice. I have never said that I agree with what he did, only you said that mid-rant. I will never agree with conviction without a fair trial. You should try more thinking and less gut reaction.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:30 am 
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townhalltaxis wrote:
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No grandad is right its the same person. the same dirty bagstard that was txtn 13 year old girls and aranging to meet them at midnight. Its all there in black and white. how anyone can even think that hes been treated unfairly is just beyond me

I would imagine that most things are beyond you. Try being capable of your own thoughts for once. Read George Orwell you might learn something.Failing that just stay with the baying lynch mob were you belong.


Yes your right everything is beyond me and im as thick as they come and even with the attention span of a gnat and the intelegence of a lemon i know its not right for a grown man to be txting 13 year old girls and aranging to meet them at midnight. Now you on the otherhand after reading orwell must be a very inteligent man and no doubt very well educated and yet cant see anything wrong in his behaviour.. Maybe you should start a petition to get his badge back for him and lets even get him a school run. Or maybe you should just have a good hard look in the mirror and figure out what it is that makes you think that way because that is not normal behaviour

It is obvious that I can think of what the future ramifications of verdict without trial means. I tend to think before I open my gob, you on the other hand just make rambling assumptions and pseudo accusations. Don't bother replying I would rather speak to a pebble.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:41 am 
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townhalltaxis wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
The correct thing would have been to let the police investigate this guy, if they (or the CPS) considered they have the chance of a successful prosecution then he should have been charged and granted his right to a trial, then he could have been found guilty by due process (grooming is an offence) but this smacks of a lynch mob plus hes no longer licensed but isnt on the sex offenders register as he would have been if charged and found guilty


So do you and billybob think its ok for him to txt young girls and arange to meet them and that he should be allowed to continue picking vunrable people up


what i THINK is that there may have been a case for police to interview him on the matter of "grooming"

right now hes free to txt young girls unhindered, he has no criminal record either, id call that a chance missed

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:43 pm 
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we will have to agree to disagree. I think the council and police are right in there actions in this case and that in this instance prevention is better that cure


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:03 am 
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Listen, "inappropriate behaviour" we think we have a good idea what that means, in this case, but where do you draw the line? And yes, I think the council got it right... in this case. :shock:

Give me your definitions of "inappropriate behaviour" because if you ask your council. You can bet your boots they don't have one. They simply make it up as they go along. This term could be used to remove your licence just because you made some "inappropriate" comment on Facebook, which was taken completely out of context.

Oh and while you are at it, give me criteria and definition for what constitutes, a fit and proper person, because once again, your council has no clue what this means?

As a taxi driver, when faced with an allegation, you have to prove your innocence, in most cases. You don't have the right, not to reply, or to become a witness against yourself by speaking to said allegation. You are judged on what you say and what you don't say, and they don't need credible evidence to come to their decision.

In other words, no one is protecting your rights, least of all your council or the courts. So the best you can do, is to spill your guts, in the hope they take pity on you. :-|

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:11 am 
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Listen, "inappropriate behaviour" we think we have a good idea what that means, in this case, but where do you draw the line? And yes, I think the council got it right... in this case. :shock:

Give me your definitions of "inappropriate behaviour" because if you ask your council. You can bet your boots they don't have one. They simply make it up as they go along. This term could be used to remove your licence just because you made some "inappropriate" comment on Facebook, which was taken completely out of context.

Oh and while you are at it, give me criteria and definition for what constitutes, a fit and proper person, because once again, your council has no clue what this means?

As a taxi driver, when faced with an allegation, you have to prove your innocence, in most cases. You don't have the right, not to reply, or to become a witness against yourself by speaking to said allegation. You are judged on what you say and what you don't say, and they don't need credible evidence to come to their decision.

In other words, no one is protecting your rights, least of all your council or the courts. So the best you can do, is to spill your guts, in the hope they take pity on you. :-|

Someone who actually sees the bigger picture. Well done Skull.


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we speak out about kangaroo courts and fake trials in other countries........

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:21 pm 
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grandad wrote:
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He can always appeal through the magistrates court to have his licence reinstated.

He lost the appeal.


HE HAD HIS TRIAL.........................THE APPEAL..................ME I'M FOR SAFETY FIRST...............HE CAN TAKE IT FURTHER SHOULD HE WISH TO.


BET HE DOSNT!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:04 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Listen, "inappropriate behaviour" we think we have a good idea what that means, in this case, but where do you draw the line? And yes, I think the council got it right... in this case. :shock:

Give me your definitions of "inappropriate behaviour" because if you ask your council. You can bet your boots they don't have one. They simply make it up as they go along. This term could be used to remove your licence just because you made some "inappropriate" comment on Facebook, which was taken completely out of context.

Oh and while you are at it, give me criteria and definition for what constitutes, a fit and proper person, because once again, your council has no clue what this means?

As a taxi driver, when faced with an allegation, you have to prove your innocence, in most cases. You don't have the right, not to reply, or to become a witness against yourself by speaking to said allegation. You are judged on what you say and what you don't say, and they don't need credible evidence to come to their decision.

In other words, no one is protecting your rights, least of all your council or the courts. So the best you can do, is to spill your guts, in the hope they take pity on you. :-|
http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24072
The magistrates there give a good definition of "inappropriate behaviour".


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:27 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:
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He can always appeal through the magistrates court to have his licence reinstated.

He lost the appeal.


HE HAD HIS TRIAL.........................THE APPEAL..................ME I'M FOR SAFETY FIRST...............HE CAN TAKE IT FURTHER SHOULD HE WISH TO.


BET HE DOSNT!


An appeal through the courts doesn't mean his case is heard anew. It is merely a test of council procedure when coming to the decision of revoking his licence.

Consider this Trotsky, your council deems your comments on TDO, to be "inappropriate" and they decided to revoke your licence, you are no longer a "fit and proper person" to hold a licence, in their eyes. You fail to meet their required standard whatever that may be.

You may think their decision is completely bonkers and an attack on your freedom of speech, but that is not what would be heard at your appeal, unless of course, you could fund a human rights case on that very issue.

The Judge would simply check to see if your council had followed the correct procedures when coming to their decision. Oh and your Lawyer would happily pocket your cash for launching an appeal that had no reasonable prospect of success.

You've had your appeal Trotsk, and you haven't a clue where it all went wrong, in this free country, where a working mans rights are protected. :shock: :roll:

So while I agree, this perv needed to be put off the road, be careful what you wish for, because our legal system affords you little protection as a taxi driver. :-|

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:35 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
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Listen, "inappropriate behaviour" we think we have a good idea what that means, in this case, but where do you draw the line? And yes, I think the council got it right... in this case. :shock:

Give me your definitions of "inappropriate behaviour" because if you ask your council. You can bet your boots they don't have one. They simply make it up as they go along. This term could be used to remove your licence just because you made some "inappropriate" comment on Facebook, which was taken completely out of context.

Oh and while you are at it, give me criteria and definition for what constitutes, a fit and proper person, because once again, your council has no clue what this means?

As a taxi driver, when faced with an allegation, you have to prove your innocence, in most cases. You don't have the right, not to reply, or to become a witness against yourself by speaking to said allegation. You are judged on what you say and what you don't say, and they don't need credible evidence to come to their decision.

In other words, no one is protecting your rights, least of all your council or the courts. So the best you can do, is to spill your guts, in the hope they take pity on you. :-|
http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24072
The magistrates there give a good definition of "inappropriate behaviour".


No. The magistrates merely agree with the council's decision. There is no clear definition of inappropriate behaviour that I can see. We merely presume that we know what is appropriate and therefore, what is inappropriate but this can vary from issue to issue? And there is nothing stopping your council from revoking your licence for say, shouting obscenities at a neighbour because his dog sh*t in your garden. :-|

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:52 pm 
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An appeal through the courts doesn't mean his case is heard anew. It is merely a test of council procedure when coming to the decision of revoking his licence.

Consider this Trotsky, your council deems your comments on TDO, to be "inappropriate" and they decided to revoke your licence, you are no longer a "fit and proper person" to hold a licence, in their eyes. You fail to meet their required standard whatever that may be.

You may think their decision is completely bonkers and an attack on your freedom of speech, but that is not what would be heard at your appeal, unless of course, you could fund a human rights case on that very issue.



The Judge would simply check to see if your council had followed the correct procedures when coming to their decision. Oh and your Lawyer would happily pocket your cash for launching an appeal that had no reasonable prospect of success.

You've had your appeal Trotsk, and you haven't a clue where it all went wrong, in this free country, where a working mans rights are protected. :shock: :roll:

So while I agree, this perv needed to be put off the road, be careful what you wish for, because our legal system affords you little protection as a taxi driver. :-|[/quote]

Just been involveld in just such a case where PCO tried to deem a driver not fit and proper because of his posting attacks on the von windsor scum...........we wiped the floor with the mugs...................now its damages time ................and sacking time for the assole who instigated the action :badgrin:

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