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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:28 pm 
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I think the issue is, that if you are PH and have your title emblazoned across the car, then the public are too stupid not to realise that you are not in fact a Taxi.

The solution, would be free issue plates for Hackney's and dispense with PH licensing altogether. Why do we need two licensing systems anyway?

Or am I just being argumentative?

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HI Greenbadge,

Sorry mate but I am totally disgusted at your signature at the bottom of your messages. Your hatred of LPH in London shines thru but dont throw the London bombings into their faces.

I am sure that a lot of Hackney drivers also made money out of the event as LPH and Hackneys were basically the only form of transport.

Please remove your signature or change it to something that is not so distasteful.

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Yes, of course this kind of thing could be averted if PH fares were regulated, but of course, which section of the trade didn't want that?

But GBC is correct about fare-gouging, and that's why taxi fares are regulated, and if they had not then the black cabs would have been asking astronomical fares as well.

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So it seems that even the black cab drivers agree that there is no reason why we should not be allowed branded livery on the cars, the only thing stopping it is the lobbying capacity of PH.

In many ways the black cab is not dissimilar to many old industries like farming or coal mining - relying on state subsidy and protectionism to save their business. Roll on the free market :wink:

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So who subsidises the Black Cabs then?

If you were targeting subsidised transport, you need only look at the buses.

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Radioman wrote:
HI Greenbadge,

Sorry mate but I am totally disgusted at your signature at the bottom of your messages. Your hatred of LPH in London shines thru but dont throw the London bombings into their faces.

I am sure that a lot of Hackney drivers also made money out of the event as LPH and Hackneys were basically the only form of transport.

Please remove your signature or change it to something that is not so distasteful.

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I was not aware of your expertise in the London trade Mr Radioman.

You have obviously listened to the numerous phone in's on LBC and BBC London since the events of that Thursday.

I have.

Call after call about Hotels and Minicab companys ripping people off who were stranded through no fault of their own.

Central London to Heathrow - £160. Sad but true.

Sure, the few big companys like Addison Lee and Premier did'nt but they're only about 7% of the Minicab trade.

They may be regulated but the inbuilt deceipt and dishonesty remains as prevelant today as it was with their inception in the sixties.

'In between jobs' people and foreign nationals whose only goal in life is to rob and steal as much as they can before they depart this world.

So, in short, No, the signature stays, if you don't like it, don't look at my postings.

This forum is monitered by the good Alex, if anything is offensive, it will be removed, but sometimes reality and the truth can be disturbing.

. . . . and just a little footnote, the London Taxi trade has a proud tradition of helping people out in times like the above, this was no exception with floods of calls to the shows thanking the Taxi trade and the Honest Hotels for helping out.


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But GBC is correct about fare-gouging, and that's why taxi fares are regulated, and if they had not then the black cabs would have been asking astronomical fares as well.


In your opinion? :?


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http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_98/pg02.htm


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jaimito wrote:
In many ways the black cab is not dissimilar to many old industries like farming or coal mining - relying on state subsidy and protectionism to save their business. Roll on the free market :wink:



I started taking an intrest in your postings for a minute, thinking you may have something to contribute to the forum and discussions we have.

But I see your going down the 'talking out of your ars*' road.

Still, in keeping with being from that side of the London trade. :?


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I must have had a bad day because I don't think there is a problem with the cab and PH trade in London, when it comes to the free and open issue.

Anyone can apply and do the London knowledge, yes I believe it takes too long, but it is open to anyone. If they get a cab license, they can have a plate.

Same with the PH trade. If people meet the set criteria, then they can work in the London PH trade no problem.

The only free and open issue that I find is wrong with the taxi/PH trade is outside of London in those 30% of councils that have taxi quotas.

Them I really don't like. :shock:

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jaimito wrote:
Roll on the free market :wink:


You might have failed to notice, but London is a free market in the Taxi trade.

The only people who think it is'nt are whinging minicab drivers who don't have to commitment or brain capacity to complete the required process.

Still, keeps my earnings up. :wink:


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Sussex wrote:
I must have had a bad day because I don't think there is a problem with the cab and PH trade in London, when it comes to the free and open issue.



The only issue theres not a problem over. :D


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I believe that it is illegal for a PH to resemble a taxi in any shape or form, in some cities PH can only advertise a company sticker on the rear doors of their saloon cars, but as we know some company cars ignore this by having company sticker in the windows, and on some occations across the bonnet, and some companies use the peugeot taxi as a PH vehicle and licensing doesn't do anything to prevent this happening so confussing the public even more.

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I believe that it is illegal for a PH to resemble a taxi in any shape or form, in some cities PH can only advertise a company sticker on the rear doors of their saloon cars, but as we know some company cars ignore this by having company sticker in the windows, and on some occations across the bonnet, and some companies use the peugeot taxi as a PH vehicle and licensing doesn't do anything to prevent this happening so confussing the public even more.

Yes but what does a taxi look like?

If you are saying a TX2, then I would be surprised if an PH driver would be stupid enough to buy one of them. So no problem there.

But if you are saying an Octavia or Mondeo, then it's all down to roof lights and signage. Those conditions are set by councils, and many allow proper PH signage and roof lights, and many don't.

The new proposed guidance from the DfT sort of meets in the middle, but if they banned roof-lights, you might see a grown man cry. :cry:

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
jaimito wrote:
In many ways the black cab is not dissimilar to many old industries like farming or coal mining - relying on state subsidy and protectionism to save their business. Roll on the free market :wink:



I started taking an intrest in your postings for a minute, thinking you may have something to contribute to the forum and discussions we have.

But I see your going down the 'talking out of your ars*' road.



Well you may disagree with him, but does that mean he's talking out of his anal passage?

After all, there's a plausibe case for saying that the black cab trade is over-regulated, particularly in relation to the KOL and vehicle standards, and indeed you make the latter case quite eloquently and persuasively yourself.

And since even some in the black cab make the former case, you can hardly just dismiss it as people talking out of their nether regions.

You're too black and white GBC.

And not just in relation to race :lol:

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