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But surely your statement has to be seen in context? Clarify this if you wish, but wasn't it the case that several posters made remarks that were obviously against more cheap immigrant labour in the country, and you replied:



Which to me read like saying that immigrant labour would be beneficial to the country and that those against are being parochial and short-sighted.

By the way, would you say there's any connection between 'little Englanderism' and wearing an English football top to work?

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Not that I know of (apart from the CRB question) but surely that's not the point. For example, and ignoring immigaration, if unemployemt rises then there'll be more drivers in the trade even if the badge criteria remains the same?



Not if there aren't any more drivers - the plate thing is about a level playing field.



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Yes, but intra-country migration is hardly likely to become something can be stopped or even debated in any credible manner, even though in theory the principle is the same.

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I made a statement and that is all it was.

There's a difference between being patriotic and little englanderism.



British jobs for british workers?

Thats how it reads to me.



But you just saud what if unemployment rises? surely a contridiction, its okay for people to drive cabs but not own them?



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But we are part of Europe, free movement of labour and all that. Unless the suggestion is leaving Europe? Then we get back to the little englander idea

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So Captain you want the wages of the Englishman, to fall to that of the Migrant worker. You seem to think thats a good thing. As a big time Operator i can see where your coming from . Any one who does not like the idea is a little Englander . OK streetcars .

I dont actually think I said that did i ?

I think I did say this country was built on migrant workers, if I had stated this country was built on the bones of migrant workers would that have been different?

I didnt say it was a good or bad thing, so please don't put words into my mouth.

Migration is a fact of life, I am of Irish/Scots descent.

So long as people are coming into the country, paying tax and being legitimate then whats the problem with migrants?

Is there a true difference between someone from Aberdeen going to Plymouth to drive for Mr Preece or someone from the Czech republic?

I didnt sign up to the treaty that allows it, I am not responsible for the history either, just pointing out facts.

You presume I'm all in favour of it, when I have said nothing of the sort.

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Not really - they both mean less earning for the indigenous workers. And, I agree, it's not a black and white issue (and I don't mean that in racial terms), but surely there's a difference between a British nation moving within Britain and illegal immigransts being afforded an amnesty (which was the proposal that started the thread) and driving down indigenous wages?


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So you're not in favour of your first two paragraphs then?

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OK, assuming the first part of this sentence was just you stating facts, the second part looks like an opinion of some kind surely?

To me it looked like you were branding objectors 'little Englanders', which hardly seemed like just stating facts?

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If they're illegal (here without permission) then how can they be licensed? Surely a breakdown within the system.

Even then the employers are to blame (and of course the Inland revenue & customs for not catching them and the employers).

In the context of a taxi forum I presume (perhaps incorrectly) the point was these illegals are driving taxis and PHV's.

If employers are hiring illegal immigrants then they should be reported. (as I am sure any person made redundant as a result of an illegal taking their job would do).

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First two paragraphs of what?

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I could say that the comma should be a full stop.

Today I travelled through a place called Cleator Moor in West Cumbria. Cleator Moor, or Little Ireland as it is affectionately known by local people, owes its roots to the Irish immigrants who came to the town looking for work during the infamous potato famine which blighted much of Ireland during 1845-1850.

It's rather strange but the animosity towards immigrant workers then is the same as what we seem to be hearing now.

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So Captain while our country was being built on the back of migrant labour the indigenous population were sitting about on their arses. Is that what you think? Is the deputy leader of the T&G, right or wrong wanting an amnesty for the, 500,000 illegal immigrant (migrant workers)? don’t you think just maybe, that will encourage even more illegal migrant workers? streetcars.

No I don't, however the following paragraph is taken from a website;

...the docker, the factory 'hand', the general labourer, or the labourers working for craftsmen such as bricklayers, for ever on the edge of a trade without a hope of getting into it." ...some of the worst Victorian poverty was amongst the immigrant Irish, who came in right at the bottom of the labour market to jobs which not even the poorest English, if they could help it, would take on.



If people are in the country illegally and not paying taxes then they should be rounded up and deported.

However, I think rounding up will encourage more illegals too.

Even then, would rounding up not be an infringment of human rights?

What jobs are all of the illegal immigrants in? thats the question, I tend to believe its the jobs the English don't want.

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If you reread my post that you qouted and replied to you'll see that what I was referring to was ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BEING AFFORDED AN AMNESTY, in which case your post is irrelevant surely?

And, indeed, that's was the essence of the story that started the thread, thus the basic premise of the arguments being made in the rest of the thread? The essential point, surely is that if all these people are afforded an amnesty then it's fair to assume that many of them would become taxi drivers legitimately?

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The first two paragraphs of the three I quoted, believe it or not.

My point was that your first two paragraphs seemed to be in favour of immigration (red text), wheres your third (blue text) seemed to contradict them.

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