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So you're saying that the whole premise of much of this thread is that we misconstrued what you were saying because you used a comma instead of a full stop?

Anyway, I can't really see much difference whatever you use:

Its strange this, the country was built on the backs of migrant workers, its now full of little englanders.

Its strange this, the country was built on the backs of migrant workers. Its now full of little englanders.

Indeed, even if the two parts of the statement are separated into different paragraphs I can't see much of a difference:

Its strange this, the country was built on the backs of migrant workers.

Its now full of little englanders.



I actually think it's more a case of animosity towards things like the potato famine and slavery than to their victims.

Where I work there are plenty of hired drivers working for less than the minimum wage equivalent, yet even at this most operators would have no problem taking on more. Yet, if you use your immigration point as an analogy then you would say that I object to those drivers and any more drivers that are taken on, but it's the system that allows this to happen that I object to.

That's what I can't understand - in a message that GBC recently posted (which I assumed was written by you elsewhere) you claimed that the the Carlise trade was 'swamped' and that the situation was akin to 'anarchy'. Yet, you would appear to have no problem with an amnesty to illegal immigrants and/or further mass immigration which would undoubtetly make this situation worse?

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No I didnt, I stated I had said nothing of the sort.

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I dont think it is. So I have to disagree. Cleator Moor was inhabited by Irish Catholics, the English Protestants decided it would be a good idea to have a orange order parade through the village, the result was a riot and deaths.



I have said nothing of the sort.

You presume that an amnesty would lead to more immigrants, you seem to presume that the 500,000 people could be sent away (now lets face it if they're illegal they wont want to be caught).

You presume we have replacements for the 500,000 people.

By English standards we would presume (perhaps rightly) these people are being exploited. So the solution is to round them up and send them packing back to some godforsaken place in the third world? Why dont we just give them a gun with a single bullet?

If these people are being exploited then its the employers and gangmasters who are exploiting them, they are the true criminals.

You'll be telling me next people from the Czech republic are better off driving cabs in Plymouth and Darlington than they are in Czech land

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I'm sorry I seem to have answered your posts in an @rse about t!t kind of manor.

Thank you for trying to make the post irrelevent

So your presuming 500,000 people leave there homes in far off lands to become taxi and PH drivers? Fair to presume? Come on TDO please!

I think the T&G guy came out with an opinion based on what he see's as the facts.

Captain Cab

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OK so you said:



So isn't it reasonable to say that your thus in favour of immigration?

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Well, yes I agree that some opposition is/has been due to racial/religous prejudice (I've read all about 'The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk' and things like ultramontanism ), but my own opposition certainly isn't founded on that, if only because I'm an agnostic. Indeed, in my younger days I was probably very pro-immigration, but since my pet subject these days is taxi markets, and taxi labour markets in particular, my opposition to immigration is based on the negative effects on them, in particular the lowering of wages and the self-evident ghettoisation, seen most obviously in places like the London minicab sector and the New York yellow taxi market.

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Well they probably are?

As regards the specifics, I've never really said that I'm not in favour of an amnesty of some kind, and I'm certainly dead against BNPesque mass deportations of non-Aryans, and in fact I'm broadly sympathetic of the kind of case featured on The Daily Politics yesterday, where the featured immigrant residing in Carlisle but due to be deported has in fact been settled in the country for some years and by all accounts has led a useful and constructive life.

However, I do have concerns about the immigration question more generally, and I object to what seemed to be your characterisation of anyone with such reservations as 'Little Englanders'.

Indeed, while I think you are more in favour of immigration than me, I think there's more common ground than there might at first glance seem, and to a large extent we're at cross purposes.

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I said MANY of them, not all

Which I think is a fair assumption, looking around the country, don't you?

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I'm not too sure, I certainly dont think its as many as you seem to think.

Although , if we perhaps agree to disagree, BUT agree that the system is ultimately wrong in allowing illegals to be licensed then perhaps thats a middle ground.

I find it quite amazing, if you can recall the commonwealth games held last year in Australia. The Australian immigration announced an exact number of people who had stayed beyond their stay there.

This country doesnt seem to have a clue.

Except of course when I go abroad and they search every bag for tobacco!

Captain Cab

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It would seem that there is nothing new, migrant workers working in the taxi trade. I was very surprised to find, that London s taxi trade. Has had a backbone of migrant workers since the eighteen thirty’s. http://www.movinghere.org.uk/stories/st ... ory222.htm I wonder if GBC knows.

Good post streetcars

Captain Cab

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