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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:02 pm 
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Is it your suggestion that I have suddenly invented a Driver Quality control policy to make it harder for Eastern European economic migrants to enter the Taxi Trade?


There seems to be an entirely reaffirmed emphasis on quality control

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I would like to know if you think it is racist or politicaly incorrect to talk about economic migration?


No I dont, but I think people need to be careful with the phrases they use.

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I would also like to know if you think this tiny island of ours should have an "open door" policy on economic migrants?


I am undecided, this country has always accepted economic migrants.

If a relative of your was in hospital and the doctor and nurse were from another country, would you object to them being treated by the foreign medical staff?

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I would like to know if you think this country should restrict migrants from working for seven years in line with other EU countries, bar two?


Restrict someone in this country from working?

Why, Provided they pay tax and insurance should anyone be disbarred from earning a living?

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There seems to be an entirely reaffirmed emphasis on quality control.


You can't be serious? But even if you are serious, no one on here is going to believe you because your statement is factually incorrect.

The reason being is because this website has a plethora of threads on the subject of Quality controls that go back years. I even wrote a substantial post on Fastblacks some time ago setting out my position on quality controls. It would appear your selective memory is still in evidence and perhaps I should visually remind of you of that which you conveniently forget?

I asked you a simple yes or no question I take your answer to mean yes considering you didn't say no?


I also asked you if you think it racist or politically incorrect to talk about economic migration? You replied…….

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No I dont, but I think people need to be careful with the phrases they use.


By that I take it you mean phrases such as "Gas chambers" "Asians" and Jews? No doubt you will heed your own advice?

I also asked you if you think this tiny island of ours should have an "open door" policy on economic migrants? You said…

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I am undecided.


I wouldn't have taken you as being an indecisive individual? Is indecision a pre requisite for joining the NTA or was it the NTA who made you indecisive? Are we to allow the acceleration of mass economic migration from Eastern Europe while the Taxi trade waits for people like you to reconcile your indecision?

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this country has always accepted economic migrants.


In modern times this country has never accepted migrants on the scale we are experiencing today. Immigration has always been controlled even when we joined the EU under the Tories. It is the Labour party who has the open door Policy on economic migrants. They had the opportunity to restrict economic migration in line with the rest of Europe but it wasn't politically correct to do that, was it?

This Government has seen the folly of their political correctness and realises that mass economic migration has its limits. So why aren't you calling the Labour Government racists for closing their open door policy?

Does your reference to "Gas Chambers" "Asians" and "Jews" not apply to them?

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If a relative of yours was in hospital and the doctor and nurse were from another country, would you object to them being treated by the foreign medical staff?


If, If, If, the above hypothetical scenario is totally irrelevant and has nothing whatsoever to do with "Mass" immigration. If foreign doctors are allowed to work in this country then they must meet the required standard of qualification. Prior to the open door policy of this Labour Government they would have been granted a working visa under the "managed immigration policy which previously prevailed

Foreign professionals work here because they want to work here, the slave trade was abolished years ago. If a professional person takes advantage of our system of employment, our working standards and other conditions that allow them to make a living from the public purse, then the public expects to be served, regardless of nationality?

From outside looking in, it appears to me that you have the blinkered notion of associating controlled immigration with racism but If you are ever able to see out of those blinkers you're wearing you might yet get the bigger picture?

I asked if you would like to know if you think this country should restrict migrants from working for seven years in line with other EU countries, bar two? You said......

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Restrict someone in this country from working?

Why, Provided they pay tax and insurance should anyone be disbarred from earning a living?


My question concerned the other EU countries that placed a restriction on economic Eastern European migrants? If you don't already know, these migrants cannot obtain work permits for seven years

Do you think the UK should apply the same policy?

An additional question I propose is, "are these other EU countries" being Racist under your definition of Gas Chambers, Asians and Jews, by not allowing them to work?

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You can't be serious? But even if you are serious, no one on here is going to believe you because your statement is factually incorrect.

The reason being is because this website has a plethora of threads on the subject of Quality controls that go back years. I even wrote a substantial post on Fastblacks some time ago setting out my position on quality controls. It would appear your selective memory is still in evidence and perhaps I should visually remind of you of that which you conveniently forget?

I asked you a simple yes or no question I take your answer to mean yes considering you didn't say no?


I am serious, there seems to be an entirely new emphasis.

No an email would suffice, I wouldnt want to take too much time apologising if I am incorrect.


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I also asked you if you think it racist or politically incorrect to talk about economic migration? You replied…….

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No I dont, but I think people need to be careful with the phrases they use.


By that I take it you mean phrases such as "Gas chambers" "Asians" and Jews? No doubt you will heed your own advice?


Of course, I will, if you will.

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I am undecided.


I wouldn't have taken you as being an indecisive individual? Is indecision a pre requisite for joining the NTA or was it the NTA who made you indecisive? Are we to allow the acceleration of mass economic migration from Eastern Europe while the Taxi trade waits for people like you to reconcile your indecision?


Why do you bring the NTA into this?

People like me?....ahh a person who will not agree with you and your superior intelligence? I see.

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this country has always accepted economic migrants.


In modern times this country has never accepted migrants on the scale we are experiencing today. Immigration has always been controlled even when we joined the EU under the Tories. It is the Labour party who has the open door Policy on economic migrants. They had the opportunity to restrict economic migration in line with the rest of Europe but it wasn't politically correct to do that, was it?

This Government has seen the folly of their political correctness and realises that mass economic migration has its limits. So why aren't you calling the Labour Government racists for closing their open door policy?


In modern times?

The windrush generation isnt modern times then?

Economic migration.....now let me see that would be a person who works here, benefits our economy by paying tax and insurance and into our state pension scheme for a few years....who then goes home leaving his pension input for people who live here?


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If a relative of yours was in hospital and the doctor and nurse were from another country, would you object to them being treated by the foreign medical staff?


If, If, If, the above hypothetical scenario is totally irrelevant and has nothing whatsoever to do with "Mass" immigration


I see so your quite selective with the type of work foreigners should do.

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captain cab wrote:


Why do you bring the NTA into this?


I have my reasons, would you like to know why? lol



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I have my reasons, would you like to know why? lol



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I am fairly certain your going to tell me anyway.

Although, I should perhaps give you reasonable notice that I have already done an article along the lines you have been mentioning for the next issue of the magazine, and to a certain degree I may have been just errm winding you up for a couple of days over the bank holiday. :wink:

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captain cab wrote:
I am fairly certain your going to tell me anyway.

Although, I should perhaps give you reasonable notice that I have already done an article along the lines you have been mentioning for the next issue of the magazine, and to a certain degree I may have been just errm winding you up for a couple of days over the bank holiday. :wink:


My reasons for mentioning the NTA were not because I have a deep seated mistrust of them, it is because I disagree with their often used statement that they represent the Taxi trade, when in effect they only represent a small proportion of the Taxi trade?

I am frustrated at an organisation that has the potential to represent all of the Taxi trade yet it prefers to meander along in a way that resembles a wounded dinosaur.

Times change, you and I both know that but the problem is reacting to change. Trade organisations should be leading the debate instead of fragmenting their ideas and expertise to the Four Corners of the United Kingdom.

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My reasons for mentioning the NTA were not because I have a deep seated mistrust of them, it is because I disagree with their often used statement that they represent the Taxi trade, when in effect they only represent a small proportion of the Taxi trade?

I am frustrated at an organisation that has the potential to represent all of the Taxi trade yet it prefers to meander along in a way that resembles a wounded dinosaur.

Times change, you and I both know that but the problem is reacting to change. Trade organisations should be leading the debate instead of fragmenting their ideas and expertise to the Four Corners of the United Kingdom.

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JD


I partially agree with you JD, the NTA needs to change, inclusion not exclusion needs to be the way.

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Can anyone join in on the 'Clash of the Titans' thread?

I would have to agree with the comments on beer consumption and handicaps though. :lol:


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rambo wrote:
Captain cab, writing about jews and gas chambers is very offensive.
As for complaining about polish plumbers/workers in Mc donalds, I get extremely frustrated/angry if I get served/deal with anybody who does not speak english.
THERE IS NOTHING MORE ANNOYING THAN TRYING TO BE UNDERSTOOD IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.



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