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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:01 pm 
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Ok seem to have set the heather alight,my political opinions are no secret and have speeches in public to that effect.Among the people i have shared a platform with are Ken Livingstone.Mitchell McLoughlin[Sinn






















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Ok seem to have set the heather alight,my political opinions are no secret and have been stated many times in public,amongst the people i have shared a platform with are Ken Livingstone,Mitchell McLoughlin[,Sinn Fein ]Tony Benn and many officials from the NUM.
Under my Branch Secretaryship my Branch has made donations to Shout the Lesbian and Gay/transgender group.
I was recently castigated for writing an article lauding the activities of Dutch trade unionists STRIKING rather than man trains of Jewish citizens to the death camps,These strikers were executed by the GESTAPO.
Do my members support my politics,who knows im sure many dont,and many do but i will debate in public at any time and not hide behind an alias,so obviously not guilty no racism here,a carefull trawl of other contributors will reveal otherwise.
Rudeness yes guilty,it would appear the norm on this site,so when in Rome!!! Organise Educate Agitate,definetely AGITATE


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:20 pm 
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OK seem to have set the heather alight,my political opinions are no secretand have been stated many times in public amongst the people i have shared a platform with are Mitchell McLoughlin,[sinn fein] Ken Livingstone,Tony Benn,KateAllen[amnesty international] and many other s from the Labour Movement
Under my branch secretaryship we have contributed to shout the Lesbian,Gay snd Transgender group.
I was recently castigated for writing an article lauding the activities of dutch trade unionists.who went of strike rather than man trains of Jewish citizens to the death camps,many were subsequently executed by the Gestapo.
Do my members support my views some do some dont but i will debate them in public and not hide behind an alias.
Rudeness would appear to be par for the course on this site and im as good at it as anyone else.Organise Educate Agitate.definetely AGITATE>


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:50 pm 
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Were getting there Captain so your a subject,and a product of Carlisle amazing I was always told the Irish had the monopoly on the idiots, just shows you dont believe all your told!and then of course theres that leading intellectual GBC, i wonder what spawned that CRETIN.


I see, so coming from the provinces I am adjudged by you to be an idiot :shock:

Which is actually quite amazing coming from someone who seems to reckon George W is the British Prime Minister. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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OK seem to have set the heather alight,my political opinions are no secretand have been stated many times in public amongst the people i have shared a platform with are Mitchell McLoughlin,[sinn fein] Ken Livingstone,Tony Benn,KateAllen[amnesty international] and many other s from the Labour Movement
Under my branch secretaryship we have contributed to shout the Lesbian,Gay snd Transgender group.
I was recently castigated for writing an article lauding the activities of dutch trade unionists.who went of strike rather than man trains of Jewish citizens to the death camps,many were subsequently executed by the Gestapo.
Do my members support my views some do some dont but i will debate them in public and not hide behind an alias.
Rudeness would appear to be par for the course on this site and im as good at it as anyone else.Organise Educate Agitate.definetely AGITATE>


So good you said it three times?

I bet Paul would like to set Heather alight. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:35 pm 
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Captain definetely no idiot just a bit sensitive and from a different planet
with different perspectives keep it coming I will.


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Captain definetely no idiot just a bit sensitive and from a different planet
with different perspectives keep it coming I will.


bejezus, a post without abuse :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:52 am 
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and words of truth! :shock:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:13 pm 
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Coming soon another inquest or another cover up.Interesting fact files on Edward 6 activities denied public access for 100yrs nothing of interest there then? Wonder what deal he struck with his Fuhrer at Bertesgharden
prehaps we should rename them the house of Hitler instead of Hanover?
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God save the parasites indeed;

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/unions/s ... 06,00.html

An internal investigation by the GMB, the country's fourth biggest trade union has accused supporters of its former general secretary and his present deputy of alleged criminal acts, a £150,000 " bribe" to a rival candidate to stand down and massive breaches of union rules on campaigning.

The report, a copy of which has been seen by the Guardian, concentrates on allegations against campaigns run for Kevin Curran, the former general secretary, and the current deputy general secretary, Debbie Coulter, who chaired last October's Labour party conference.

Mr Curran described the whole inquiry as a kangaroo court and his solicitor was considering legal action. Debbie Coulter declined to comment.
There is no investigation into their defeated rival, Paul Kenny, now acting general secretary, who told the investigators that none of the people supporting him had done any campaigning at all.

No witnesses came forward with any evidence against Mr Kenny.

Among the extraordinary allegations in the report are a claim by rival candidate, Phil Davies, that he was offered, via a third party, a £150,000 severance package from Mr Curran to withdraw his candidacy against Ms Coulter.

Mr Curran yesterday described the claim as "a fabrication".

Other allegations include the use of £300 of stamps to send out election addresses, and of false accounting by hiding election material in a union magazine print order.

The report says unknown people broke the Data Protection Act by getting access to members addresses so they could be canvassed.

No criminal action is being taken.

The report accuses a Newcastle firm of solicitors of mounting a " phone bank" operation to cold call members, stuffing thousands of envelopes and paying for election addresses.

They also discovered a pro-Curran website, a " Friends of Curran" bank account with unknown sums of money donated by MPs and a local employer and a " Friends of Curran and Coulter" organisation operating out of a PO Box address in Brighton.

The report alleged that altogether some 50,000 to 60,000 election leaflets were issued in Lancashire, the north east and Scotland, and lists staff and members who admitted helping Mr Curran.

It says they even seconded a TUC member of staff from the north east to work for him.

All these acts are against the present union rules, which forbid campaigning, sending out election material or using union money to fund campaigns.

The report dismisses serious claims - highlighted in the press - that Mr Curran was involved in ballot-rigging or tried to pervert the course of justice in a tribunal case.

The investigation panel was chaired by Phil King, a lawyer with Thompsons', the union's solicitors.

Mr Curran, on advice from his solicitor, Louise Christian, declined to appear before them until they put the allegations to him. He has not been sent the report.

He told the Guardian: " It was a kangaroo court. Everything that was done by my supporters was done by Mr Kenny's supporters by the bucketful.

"I have boxes of material showing that Mr Kenny did similar things and members of the union know this happened but they never came forward.

"For the very first day I was elected and started to sort out the union's finances and change the way it was run they were determined to get me."

Ms Christian said last night that Mr Curran was considering legal action. " This investigation was not impartial, it was one-sided."

She added that the union appeared to have misled Mr Curran in a letter sent on February 27.

The letter, also on the website, says: "The report makes no finding against your client.. there is no intention to provide any information to the press."

Mr King said yesterday: " It was not a kangaroo court. It was a thorough investigation to look at the situation and make recommendations on any rule changes needed for future elections and we did sent information to Mr Curran for comments.

"We have not sent the report to anybody, we reported back to the union."

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:46 pm 
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Oh dear captain that old story,Paul Kenny now Gen Sec all legal and above board,unless you know otherwise! if you do please post information I will ensure Paul Kenny sees it..
As for your pet shower of parasites GMB official policy immediate abolishment of royal family and creation of Republic passed annual conference 2005.Proposed by Professional Drivers Branch carried overwhelmingly.Currently i believe GMB only union with this policy,our allies on this issue in other unions will move similiar motions when they think appropriate Just for a change why not respond to the debate about the behaviour and morality of these PARASITES? UP THE REPUBLIC
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Oh dear captain that old story,Paul Kenny now Gen Sec all legal and above board,unless you know otherwise! if you do please post information I will ensure Paul Kenny sees it..
As for your pet shower of parasites GMB official policy immediate abolishment of royal family and creation of Republic passed annual conference 2005.Proposed by Professional Drivers Branch carried overwhelmingly.Currently i believe GMB only union with this policy,our allies on this issue in other unions will move similiar motions when they think appropriate Just for a change why not respond to the debate about the behaviour and morality of these PARASITES?


Do what you want, but please make it public, I think the majority of people in this country would rather have a royal family than your republic.

I wonder why a drivers branch would propose and pass a resolution a resolution about the Royal Family. I mean, I would have thought your members would have been a tad more concerned about issues affecting the trade, yet the Royal family are first and you'll sort out the pirates later?

Seems a very odd way to conduct yourselves.

And the GMB have a policy? WOW! But they aren't a political party are they?

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GMB Secretary, i have to say i have read all these posts and indeed several others with interest and although i must admit not all concerned are whiter than white, i must say that a man placed in a position such as yours that works supposedly for the people, quite frankly you have dissapointed me with your abuse towards certain members of this forum and my personal views on unions are now some what clouded. Yes you may well now call me a parasite or whatever you deem necessary to please your ego, but at least im safe in the knowledge that sticks and stones and all that rubbish. And im just voicing my personal opinion which up till now i have kept to myself. I truly hope for all the other members sakes of organisations such as yours that your companions are not all like you or heaven help us all :roll:

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GMB Secretary, i have to say i have read all these posts and indeed several others with interest and although i must admit not all concerned are whiter than white, i must say that a man placed in a position such as yours that works supposedly for the people, quite frankly you have dissapointed me with your abuse towards certain members of this forum and my personal views on unions are now some what clouded. Yes you may well now call me a parasite or whatever you deem necessary to please your ego, but at least im safe in the knowledge that sticks and stones and all that rubbish. And im just voicing my personal opinion which up till now i have kept to myself. I truly hope for all the other members sakes of organisations such as yours that your companions are not all like you or heaven help us all :roll:


And I will second that proposal from the floor :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:46 pm 
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GMB not a political party clever but we do have 103mps in the house.
Of course this issue is not top of our priorities,But what it always does is extract the philistines from the norm it was too good to miss,and didnt it work well.I was told many years ago by a member of The international Brigade that fought against Franco,if you swindle the british they will grovell if you tax them unfairly they will stand for it if you make them work harder for less they will fight each other for the work[.All of which happens in this country today]but if you tell them the truth about the parasites in buck house they will go mad and want to fight you. Nothing new there then,and the Captain,Kermit.GBC, and the rest substantiate that statement all these years later.
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You truly are a deluded character Mr GMB Secretary and if thats what you think then sure your entitled to your opinion and i respect that, as for me though i will just disagree with you respectfully and say no more on the subject as i have better things to do with my time :roll:

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If this dunderhead would like to advise us why he keeps banging on about the union being this and that and all things to all men, as well as his position within it YET he has a disclaimer as his signature regarding his viewpoint.


I propose he either changes his username so his views aren't confused with that of the GMB or he removes the disclaimer.

This kind of ranter is the reason unions will never prosper in this industry.

B. Lucky :?

BTW I consider myself as a True Labour/trade unionist ..................... but no national union is competant enough to earn the respect of either myself or my members within this industry.

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