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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:02 pm 
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Has anyone else been fined for parking at the BP garage at Gatwick.Three of our drivers have.You don't know anything until about two weeks after when you get a nice letter saying you were over the limit of half a hour and must pay £150 quid or £70 if paid within fourteen days.Yes the signs are put up now,but i'm sure when i was parked (after filling up and spending money for a coffee and a bite to eat),they were not there. :sad:


What does the parking sign actually say and do you have a pic of the parking area it refers to?

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Unfortunately I havent seen the signs myself, wasnt looking especially at 2 am.

All i wanted was a bacon bagette, a latte and 2 cans of red bull before meeting my punters.

I havent got any jobs there this week so cant take any pictures but i will take my digital camera with me and take some next time im there :sad: :sad:

although by then they might have changed them by then :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As you probably know any notice of a parking charge other than that which is stipulated in the Traffic management act 2004 is in most cases a civil matter. Penalty Charge Notices are Governed by statute law and are issued under certain circumstances. Basically the majority of parking offences which involve parking meters or designated parking places are now a civil matter.

See Schedule 7, Section 73 of the "Traffic Management Act 2004", road traffic contraventions subject to civil enforcement, Part 1 Parking contraventions.

The placing of a sign on the forecourt of a petrol station suggesting that a person who allows his vehicle to stay longer than 20 minutes will be issued with a fine is intriguing. The petrol station is a public right of way otherwise it would have a sign saying keep out Trespassers will be prosecuted. The purpose of the petrol station is to draw custom from the highway and the surrounding area, the problem lies in defining the legality of the sign and also the civil charge associated with the contravention of the sign?

In the next few days I shall try and dig out some case law for you in order that you may decide for yourself the legality of this civil claim.

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I know that my average £150.00 a week diesel + food wont dent their profits much but this is daylight robbery and i wouldnt mind but I always use the short stay car parks for my parking not precious BP land. :evil: :evil: :evil:


As they say at Tescos though every little helps, and for everyone that reads this and puts it in to action those little bits soon add up :wink:

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Have a read of this case in respect of parking notices on private property, consenting contracts and whether or not the notice was read and understood.

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cg ... 0/106.html

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I didnt think you could appeal against these type of poxy private land enforcement notices, thats why I personally will never use a Bp service station ever again(unless im desparate for diesel) or they cancell this ticket.

There is some sort of 'Parking Thieving Ba***** Ass' somewhere on the net, that has an appeal service.

Now the mob you are dealing with might not be in it, if so ask BP why they are dealing with a mob that are part of the national ass.

Have you looked at pepipoo?

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That is very good, but the only thing I will mention is that when dealing with these parking enforcement companies you are not dealing with resonable people, you are dealing with tossers of the first degree.

I would also consider an appeal to an adjudicator who shouldn't be such a [edited by admin]. :wink:


I didnt think you could appeal against these type of poxy private land enforcement notices, thats why I personally will never use a Bp service station ever again(unless im desparate for diesel) or they cancell this ticket.

I know that my average £150.00 a week diesel + food wont dent their profits much but this is daylight robbery and i wouldnt mind but I always use the short stay car parks for my parking not precious BP land. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Lets see what reply I get from BP careline and i will keep you posted :sad: :sad:




Following on from my letter to BP all i got back was a standard sorry you should of seen the signs and we have a terrible congestion problem at gatwick, blah, blah, blah you will have to write to the other muppets as its got nothing to do with us.


ER scuse me done that and havent had a reply where the f*ck do i go now :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Anybody know who the chairman of BP is as hes gonna get it next

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Unfortunately i dont know the answer to your question, but hopefully someone will, however surely this info is available on the net, good luck though and when you do get in touch, let him have both barrells :wink:

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how long were you parked for?

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how long were you parked for?

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Problem is its theyre word against mine, according to them around 62 mins but were talking over a month ago so i can remember although it would definately be over their alloted 20 mins.

As stated earlier went in bought a bacon bagette, a latte a can of red bull and a newspaper (checked my receipts) :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

According to the receipt i paid for this at 02.11am so by the time the bagette gets cooked and get my coffee i would of thought thats at 2.16 am at least then add another 15mins to eat and drink my coffee and another 5-10 mins to drink my red bull that would take me upto around 2.45ish then have a quick read of my paper for another 10-15 mins would take me to around 3.00ish,


My ncp car park ticket say i entered at 3.09am and left at 3.58


Bearing in mind that
A: i didnt spot any signage about a maximum stay (why dont they put one by the food till)

B: i was parked in a parking space not just dumped anywhere and on top of that Im pretty sure the garage was mostly empty.

I just think theyre taing liberties as stated before i always use the car parks the punter pays for it.

On this morning in question all i wanted was something reasonable to eat a cup of coffee and a short rest after a long day before doing my next job. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

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morphy wrote:
Problem is its theyre word against mine, according to them around 62 mins but were talking over a month ago so i can remember although it would definately be over their alloted 20 mins.

What you could say is that you went to fill up before you picked up your punter, but at that time they were cashing up, which means no petrol or cash sales can take place for at least 5 mins.

So you then went out to the airport carpark, waited for your punter there, and then returned to the petrol station on your way home.

Clearly it took a photo of you when you went in first, but missed you on the way out. Whereas it did the reverse on your second visit. :wink:

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parking is one of the biggest growth industries in the UK since retailers are always struggling to grow their profits it's an inevitability that they will turn to car park charging/penalty fines as a means of generating revenue


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Hi first post.

One blurry pic of parking terms.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:54 am 
Personally I've not had a problem at Gatwick apart from trying to find the over height vehicle parking (or am i the only one that has made an attempt to follow the signs until I finally run out of petrol and am forced to pay the rip off prices!)

I did have a problem at Heathrow in the height of the Summer when I filled up with diesel, nipped to the loo (and waited in the long queue), came back to vehicle feeling the heat and needing the air con only to find I'd been at the pump too long and the bus was on its way to the compound - HUH???

Eventually got it released FOC - as should have been but not great as flight I was picking up from had landed and pax not happy bunnies.

Over the course of a year each of us must spend over a grand at major airports and I personally think its about time that we had our own recoginsed parking areas with services such as toilets and cheaper coffees etc. I had a huge row at Stansted last year as I parked in a desabled bay (TX11) and was picking up a wheelchair bound pax - flight had slight delay and they wanted me to pay over £100 for being an extra 3 mins in zone!! A loudly worded quote from the Disability Discrimination Act got me out FOC but thats notthe point!


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