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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:05 pm 
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GMB Branch secretary wrote:
Streetcars the PHV company said they would do the work.That might be BRAVADO, could they have produced the goods? do you back down at the first threat?
It would appear that democracy is appearing on the scene.
Because other Cities have caved in why should you?
I think that if the hacks stick together they will win, I sincerley hope so B lucky Terry GMBPDB.
Well I am deeply shocked, that a local firm would have the treachery, to take the airport work off the hacks. Could they cope, with the airport work the answer, as every one in Liverpool knows, who this unnamed Private Company is probably yes. But you ask your self did this. Private hire firm go touting, for this airport monopoly prompting this mess, we have at present :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: streetcars


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Streetcars im 200 miles away and would trust your judgment on this.Im continually saying that both sides of the industry need to work together, this is a prime example why.
ORGANISE ORGANISE AGITATE!

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Euston Station. These schemes are legitimate as the utility is located on private property


Eh? :-s

That's news to me, I must have missed something over the last couple of decades.
I wonder how much i'm owe them? :D


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It is not however uncommon for utilities in other cities to operate permit systems eg Manchester Airport, Euston Station.

Is it asking too much for LOs to talk or write in proper English? :?


Have'nt you watched Brookside? :wink:


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I think its all it cut and dried, the PH company is in place, this is just a little carrot and stick job to make it look like we negotiated with the hacks and it failed


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Who could this dispicable private hire firm be offering to provide its services to Liverpool JLA? :?:

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Delta are 4-1 just because there t***s . Regards streetcars


Mmmm. Could it really be us! :oops:

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A South Liverpool Private hire company. Would have took all the airport work . So much for Liverpool people sticking together. Regards streetcars


Doh! South Liverpool Firm, someone else! It might have been Delta because we are t***s, but now it turns out not to have been Delta. I'm confused, Mr Streetcar, am I still a t*** or not? :?: :?:

I think our enlightened colleague, Mr GMB Branch Secretary might be onto something though...

Agitate, Educate, Organise, bottle and solidarity... The battle must be won... who is the PHV company we might have contact with them and be able to exert some pressure... who gives a f--k to aquiess to an unjust law is to accept it... time for the battle... think the hacks should tell all and sundry to stick their proposals up their HARRIS... Were you to stick together you cant lose... the lesson to be learned is UNITY, an injury to one is an injury to all...it takes GUTS and UNITY.

By golly that gets the juices flowing. Yes, what the cabbies need is a tooled-up lynch mob parading the airport and if they spot any passengers having the audacity to attempt leaving the grounds by bike, bus, private hire or their own vehicle they should be coshed on the head and 'educated' into using the only accepted, union-friendly form of transport. Welcome to Liverpool, trade union central!

I apologise for being so facetious, but here's the deal...

Prior to all this hoohar Delta have been carrying between six and seven thousand passengers a month to and from Liverpool JLA, some of them cash paying families off on their holidays, some of them medical experts or members of the business community using their company's Delta taxi account. We have done this quietly and efficiently alongside the airport hackney cabs for many years with little or no problems.

Initially, hackney carriages were located immediately outside the terminal door and private hire used a nearby service road to pick up and drop off their pre-booked fares. When last year's new security measures dictated that no vehicles were allowed right outside the door the cabs were moved to the service road and the private hire were forced into the car park. This new, and apparently knee-jerk solution to the security problem added an immediate £2.70 parking charge to each Delta pick-up, which our drivers have to take on the chin if their passengers fail to show and they drive away empty. It also meant that we had to unload families and their luggage into an open air car park, leaving them a heavily laiden and often wet trudge to the car park exit, past the service road, over the bumps, past the cabs, passed the buses and into the terminal. Not what one expects from a capital of culture!

The situation was far from ideal but security measures and the airport's runaway expansion have been far from ideal too. Instead of spitting out our dummy and threatening industrial action we just got on with things as best we could. The parking charges were passed on to our passengers but that still left us about a third cheaper than the hacks.

The Airport authorities have an obvious agenda to generate revenue, that's what businesses are supopsed to do. However, they also have a duty to embrace, or at at the very least be seen to embrace a number of accepted policies, many of which are published in their masterplan.

They must also attempt to embrace central government's policies for safe, green, accessible, and inexpensive transport solutions... Delta can argue a pretty good case of outperforming every other modes of public transport in every one of these categories... but that's for another day.

I actually pity the airport authorities, they have that many parties pulling them in that many directions they are on a hiding to nothing. For our part we just get on with it as best we can, safely, greenly and reliably.

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Nice to see you are still reading, this web sight. Oh yes, every one must be truly, amazed at Delta s success but, I often wonder if its all down to Deltas, business acumen, or the, fact that you seem to have a sycophantic, hackney trade and council in Sefton. They let you build offices where you like. Advertise what you like. You are supposed to have 1,000 cars, as every street in Liverpool, has at least two of your cars in it .I would think, you must have a lot more than that. Delta are of course still t***s. Prove me wrong, open a office in Liverpool . Thats were all your work is, thats the honest thing to do . Dont hide like a snake, in the back streets of Bootle. streetcars


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:Taxi firm helps shut down phone scamDec 21 2006




by Lyndsay Kohberg, Crosby Herald


A TELEPHONE scam has conned residents out of cash with the promise of winning £1,000.

Not only that, the recorded message, which urges people to ring a premium rate number to collect the loot, uses the name Delta Promotions leading local people to believe it is linked to taxi firm Delta which has its headquarters on Moor Lane, Crosby.

And in another coincidence, prize-winners are asked to speak to James at Delta – the name shared by Delta taxis’ managing director James McLaughlin.

Officials at the firm are anxious to point out that the message, generated by Derbyshire-based company Mad Max Mobiles, is entirely unrelated to them.

Premium rate regulator Icstis has this week confirmed the number has been disconnected to ensure no-one else falls foul of the scam.




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A spokeswoman said: “We investigated this as soon as it came to our attention and carried out emergency procedures to cut the number off.


“The company was using automated calling equipment which can make a huge number of calls at the same time which is not a legal way of promoting business.”


Delta taxis secretary Paul McLaughlin pointed out that while the company has run competitions in the past, these have been in the form of word searches and crosswords which are posted to customers. The only cost to entering is postage and none of the company’s competitions are aimed at generating revenue.


Paul said: “With Delta carrying 50,000 passengers a day, one would tend to assume and associate the message with the taxis.


“And with our MD being called James, it is too much like a coincidence.


“The message is nothing to do with us and I’m rather upset some people might have had some bad feeling towards Delta because of this.


“My first concern was someone trying to target the good name of Delta, but it appears to be purely a coincidence.


“It’s just unfortunate that people come out with scams that play on people’s gullibility, especially at this time of year when there’s bills to pay and Christmas presents to buy.


“I’d like to thank our customers for bringing it to our attention.”


Gosh! Delta you have busy, James or is it Paul . Regards streetcars


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About time we visited Delta drivers i think, Working Time Regs, Self Employed, or Worker under the direction of the company, might prove interesting, your on the LIST best wishes GMBPDB!

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You are supposed to have 1,000 cars, as every street in Liverpool, has at least two of your cars in it .I would think, you must have a lot more than that. Delta are of course still t***s. Prove me wrong, open a office in Liverpool . Thats were all your work is, thats the honest thing to do . Dont hide like a snake, in the back streets of Bootle. streetcars


Of Course! Now why didn't we think of that? Open an office in Liverpool! Then all we have to do is ask 1,200 delta drivers to rebadge and 1,200 delta car owners to replate. Perhaps not the smartest suggestion I've ever heard ...

Whilst there are 2,400 Sefton badges and plates on our system, keeping our office somewhere within the Sefton boundary is a no-brainer. Our work area is not, as you suggest, Liverpool; it's MERSEYSIDE. Within Merseyside our single busiest area is Bootle. The closest we can physically get to the geographical centre of Merseyside whilst remaining in Sefton is Bootle. Bootle also has excellent public transport links for control centre operatives to get to work. Sefton's ONE STOP SHOP Licensing facilities are located in Southport and Bootle, 100 yds from our new office. There are nearby employment agencies like Sefton@Work to source new staff locally. The supplementary planning guidance (SPGs) and unitary development plans (UDPs) for the area are also in keeping with the delta control centre development.

Anyone familiar with the area would have to laugh at how you describe the location, 'hidden in the back streets'. We are talking about where Stanley Road meets Strand Road. It's the city centre of North Merseyside. This is where the Strand Shopping Centre is located. There's a new LIDL under construction (Asda will soon follow). The pedestrian zone has Marks & Spencers, McDonalds, Subway, Yates, etc. Sefton's busiest hackney ranks are based there.

Added to that, the site is alongside a beautiful stretch of the Leeds Liverpool Canal with weeping willows drooping into the water with reeds, swans and ducks. There may be a lot of litter floating past at the moment but the authorities have big plans to clean it up very soon. I cannot think of a more perfect setting for any business to call home.

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Thanks for that, :D :D you have answered every Liverpool hackney drivers question. Why was Christmas so bad. :evil: :evil: :evil: I know and you know most of your work is in Liverpool.You choose to base your self in Sefton, because of the competitive advantage, you have over the Liverpool taxi trade. In fact the foundations of your business, were built pre 1994 when Sefton had no street knowledge test. And you could plate a twenty-year-old robin reliant, with a one eyed psychopath as a driver. How times have changed, there have been a few quality changes in Sefton cbr a pathetic street knowledge test. But you still enjoy a competitive advantage. In fact you can advertise on your cars making Sefton private hire a small fortune. This whole farce makes Taxi regulation at a local level a absolute joke. Streetcars


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Thanks for that, :D :D you have answered every Liverpool hackney drivers question. Why was Christmas so bad. :evil: :evil: :evil: I know and you know most of your work is in Liverpool.You choose to base your self in Sefton, because of the competitive advantage, you have over the Liverpool taxi trade. In fact the foundations of your business, were built pre 1994 when Sefton had no street knowledge test. And you could plate a twenty-year-old robin reliant, with a one eyed psychopath as a driver. How times have changed, there have been a few quality changes in Sefton cbr a pathetic street knowledge test. But you still enjoy a competitive advantage. In fact you can advertise on your cars making Sefton private hire a small fortune. This whole farce makes Taxi regulation at a local level a absolute joke. Streetcars


I don't think your take on the situation is the same as the poster Deltastaff.

It seems to me that they choose to base themselves in Sefton, because they operate from Sefton.

The conditions of license in Sefton are nothing to do with a Liverpool driver, if they leave the sefton vehicle at an advantage, would that not mean the conditions in Liverpool are too onerous?

If people are choosing to to phone the firm in question, I would suggest they are doing so for a reason. Indeed, if you are passing judgement upon the legalities and any potential illegalities, then isn't that part and parcel of enforcement?

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The conditions of license in Sefton are nothing to do with a Liverpool driver, if they leave the sefton vehicle at an advantage, would that not mean the conditions in Liverpool are too onerous? :?: :?: :?: cc quote I am sure if a private hire firm started operating in Carlisle. who had a base outside your town with no quality controls .Took all of your work . Would you just sit there and say it is our falt our quality, controls are to onerous?.

If people are choosing to to phone the firm in question, I would suggest they are doing so for a reason. Indeed, if you are passing judgement upon the legalities and any potential illegalities, then isn't that part and parcel of enforcement? :?: :?: :?: :?: cc quote There is no dout what Delta are doing is not illegal . But i would say its unfair competition .

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The conditions of license in Sefton are nothing to do with a Liverpool driver, if they leave the sefton vehicle at an advantage, would that not mean the conditions in Liverpool are too onerous? :?: :?: :?: cc quote I am sure if a private hire firm started operating in Carlisle. who had a base outside your town with no quality controls .Took all of your work . Would you just sit there and say it is our falt our quality, controls are to onerous?.

If people are choosing to to phone the firm in question, I would suggest they are doing so for a reason. Indeed, if you are passing judgement upon the legalities and any potential illegalities, then isn't that part and parcel of enforcement? :?: :?: :?: :?: cc quote There is no dout what Delta are doing is not illegal . But i would say its unfair competition .

regards streetcars


I don't have any real opinion as towards your view that the competition is unfair.

The only thing I would ask is with regards to the costs of operating, what are the differences in the costs of being a Liverpool based PH as opposed to being a Sefton based PH.

It seems to me (from what I've heard), that Delta are very proactive and innovative....could the same be said about the competition? Nobody force people to telephone them, in a highly competative market surely the questions need asked as to why people are phoning them as opposed to the opposition?

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I suppose the only thing that would put a spanner in the works is if BT changed the area codes so that Liverpool and Sefton differed. :-k

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