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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:15 pm 
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who pays the driver his wages, the client , the vechile owner or the agency...
keep up I am trying to learn as you back door boys keep it under your hat.


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The words glass houses and stones spring to mind here, however its totally legal AINT IT, point proved well done Graduate :lol: :lol:

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Graduate wrote:
Lets say you and a few friends decide to go to on a day tip and nobody wants to drive , so you hire a driver , its perfectly legal and does not make the operator unless you CHARGE your friends.

You don't need to charge to be deemed an operator, all you need to do is to take/control the booking. :?

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I'm not usually that into PSV licensing, but in this self drive hire who is the operator?

And in what way are they licensed? :-k

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11,000 + limousines on UK roads and NOT 1 Fatality in 30 years

kirmit you said you had a meeting with the ELA and you got 40 people there ..I am impressed so many out of 11,000 found there way to the meeting. :roll: :roll: :roll:


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NCAP safety tests were invented in which country ???????




The 30 year-old New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) is widely known for the five-star crash ratings that appear prominently in car and truck advertising.

Critics of the federal five-star safety testing program charge that the five stars are obtained by so many vehicles in each group that they are virtually meaningless because they fail to differentiate between the safest vehicles and those that are less safe.


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11,000 + limousines on UK roads and NOT 1 Fatality in 30 years

kirmit you said you had a meeting with the ELA and you got 40 people there ..I am impressed so many out of 11,000 found there way to the meeting. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes indeed not bad for an association that has acheived so much in a very short space of time, and new members joining all the time, also we have strict joining criteria and any limo op that dosn't pass the strict criteria does not become a member, stop clutching at straws you have nothing left to give fella, kind regards

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Under self drive rules there is NO operator, the vehicles are not hire and reward. As for licensing ???? have you ever hired a licensed minibus from Avis ?

But if the driver is either getting paid, or gains some sort of benefit, then he is driving that vehicle for 'hire and reward', so in effect the vehicle and driver are both un-licensed.

I'm sorry to sound a tad thick but under what PSV rules are the limos acting under?

As far as I can work out all types of PSV licensing requires an operator of sorts. The situation with the big hummers doesn't seem to have one.

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Kermit & Graduate

But the ENCAP or NCAP do not include ANY LIMOUSINE in the tests but just standard cars & trucks

Also if you hire a 16 seater from Avis it would be all friends including the driver then it would self drive hire so that would make 15 passengers 1 driver?

So want you are saying is that the customers driver you £50,000 plus Hummers with 16 passengers plus one of there friends driving?

So is that not 17 seater?

Also Kermit can I ask why you needed help with the questions you have been asked?

Any way is the the 13 seater left or right hand drive in norfolk?

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Yes indeed not bad for an association that has acheived so much in a very short space of time, and new members joining all the time, also we have strict joining criteria and any limo op that dosn't pass the strict criteria does not become a member, stop clutching at straws you have nothing left to give fella, kind regards


what 40 people turning up thats good
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So has NLA has 30-60 people turn up to there meetings

so between you both thats what 110 people lets say thats what 300 limos

11,000+ :mrgreen: in the uk - 300 :roll:on you your books = :oops: 10,700 limos that are not members?

So do you think you are that good?

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Is the customer aware of their responsibilities, if they are undertaking a self drive hire do they get the opportunity to actually drive the vehicle themselves?

If not why not?

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There is in my opinion absolutely NO POINT in continuing with this thread as ALL THE POINTS myself and GRADUATE have raised about the taxi side seem to get ignored, i wonder why that is then!! And yet you want ALL the answers from us about our business, I am also whilst on this subject not afraid to ask for help answering questions as i like to know that what i type is factual unlike some of the other posters on here!! some of you are very selfish indeed and totally outrageously IGNORANT to other peoples businesses and livelihoods, now can i suggest that certain members of this forum wake up and smell the coffee and indeed concentrate a little harder on keeping food on their own tables!!!!!! kind regards This is all i have to say on this matter now and wish you all luck in whatever ventures your heart desires :wink:

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