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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:53 pm 
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It's a bit of backward thinking to restrict a vehicle to 8 passengers that can adequately cater for more, just because of outdated legislation.



But this system works the licenced limo boys know what they can do . and are Happy. the counclis are happy they have in place something that fits in well with all there other Taxi & PH cars & drivers. The only ones kicking up are the ones with none coif over 8 limos. They KNEW they were not Legal when they paid the big bucks for them, and were outside ALL existing rules & regs, and want any way to work legal...These vechiles are not suitible for purpose on UK roads without a coif, either get a coif for them or ship them back to the USA,.
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calm down Kermit you know you are right about this so chilllllllllllllllllllll

by the way this your friendly hackney driver just for the record buddy
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Thats the whole point. we have in place a good system which we all know and it works. why should it be changed just to suit the spivs.
The under 8 limos slot in well with PH , most councils have created a new catagory for them as special events , works well, they abide by the normal council rules for all 8 seaters. The drivers have to obtain a PH badge.Even the limo boys are all happy with this.
But this lot who have the over 8 things are out on a limb , they dont fit into the under 8 catergory and there motors Vosa wont recognise with the normal mini bus rules for hire and reward. Their tactics is to frighten all the legal licenced limos to support them in getting one licence for all.It proves they dont give a dam by happily useing this self drive hire scam.
They preach they are doing it for the good for all, ( so did hitler) it is for only one reason to somehow get a legal ticket..
keep trying you have been sussed


New legislation would be able to cater for all types of limos. The only reason limos can only seat 8 people at the moment, is because of the restriction of private hire legislation. Limos are a different category of vehicle and although we all believe they should be licensed, it is my opinion that they should be licensed by a separate body in order that the public and the owners of these vehicles can derive the best possible use.

It's a bit of backward thinking to restrict a vehicle to 8 passengers that can adequately cater for more, just because of outdated legislation.

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calm down Kermit you know you are right about this so chilllllllllllllllllllll

by the way this your friendly hackney driver just for the record buddy


Thanks MATE :wink:

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All in All the council licenced 8 seat limo opperators ARE running legaly, and no one can callenge this, were as these 16 seat self drive hire lot are in the twilight zone, and all the debate that has gone only proves the loop hole they are exploiying is in its self full of holes.
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and all the debate that has gone only proves the loop hole they are exploiying is in its self full of holes.

TBH I would love to see the opinion this loophole is based on.

From my experience barristers like to use the words 'may' and 'could be viewed as'. Not cast iron yes's or no's. :wink:

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I have been doing some phoning around differnt companies useing this self drive methord , asking for quotes and how to go about booking. All 4 I spoke to said the driver would have a rental agreement for us to sign when the bus thing turned up, this with us already paying for the booking before hand. So the punter is given the agreement last minute when every one is ready to go and the clock is ticking, Hardly time to read the small print and suss out the implications is it..
Kermit as I have never meet or seen you,,, Do you pay any resemblance to Arthur Daley..
as your business practices are similar
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I'm CHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLED :lol: :lol: :lol:

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no tips wrote:
I have been doing some phoning around differnt companies useing this self drive methord , asking for quotes and how to go about booking. All 4 I spoke to said the driver would have a rental agreement for us to sign when the bus thing turned up, this with us already paying for the booking before hand. So the punter is given the agreement last minute when every one is ready to go and the clock is ticking, Hardly time to read the small print and suss out the implications is it..
Kermit as I have never meet or seen you,,, Do you pay any resemblance to Arthur Daley..
as your business practices are similar

Surely then the contract is with the phone person.

If not then what redress would the operator have if the customer didn't turn up? :?

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No company would send a vehicle out without payment first and no customer in their right mind would book a vehicle, pay the money and not ask for a contract or reciept!!!!

Surely in that case the contract is with the telephone booking agent, not the driver. :?

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2 different contracts Mr Sussex, the driver is from an Agency NOT the limo hire firm he has his own separate contract for his services.

So if a contract is with the booking agent, then the booking agent must be licensed to operate the vehicle, so why bother with a seperate contract with the driver cos the booking agent should be fully licensed? :?

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Each company but one I contacted wanted Full payment by credit card over the phone on booking , in the one case I was told they would take £100 deposit by credit card the remaining to be paid cash on arrival where I would be given the hire contract for the limo to sign before departure. NOT one were going to seen out a agreement to sign by post..
This I made a point about asking... after all that is why I was phoning , to find out how theses firm work..I asked one about reading the agreement before hand and was fobbed of with its all normal practice just the same as Hertz use.
If anyone is in doubt ring any of theses companies and find out for yourself.
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