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I sense the hand of censorship is reaching for the off switch.

But T. , you have to ask yourself why PHVs were created in the first place.
It was because of unmet demand for Pre-booked cabs/taxis/PHV's, call them what you will, and who was not meeting the demand? Why Hackney carriages at the time, but they didn't want more hacks being licensed so what have you got instead ... PHVs to do the work that hackneys wouldn't or couldn't do.

You can rant against PHVs all you like but they exist because of the failure of the hackney trade to serve the public and the attempt by the hackney trade to keep the golden goose all to themselves.

Do you think de-limitation would ever have even been thought about if there had not been so many Councils ( with full backing from their local Hackney Assoc ) , trying to limit numbers for so many years.
If councils had a policy of steady increase then the limits would still be in place albeit at a higher level.

Too many hackney owners can only think of their own short term ££££

We know this is bad for the trade, bad for the public no redeeming features.

I got my Plate from the waiting list, I put my time in, that should always be thw starting point you make a contibution before you reap the benefits.

Reply from T.
Well done someone got there, I have said this for years, we have 2 tier system because of the short sighted greed of many of the plate holders in the past. Gradual expansion and growth is what I have advocated for years but this middle ground is very sparsely populated. The most vocal group are the have-nots, the Delimit/Dereg lot. We know this is bad for the trade, bad for the public no redeeming features. Every new plate just means more conjestion at town centre ranks and less service in the provinces. Gradual expansion, zoning, peak time restriction lets look at options that are sustainable and benefit the community. I got my Plate from the waiting list, I put my time in, that should always be thw starting point you make a contibution before you reap the benefits.

By your own admission T. , you're accepting that PHVs are doing what Hackneys should have done if they had not had their collective heads where the sun doesn't shine. Therefore what is your problem with PHVs then?
If they had all been called hackneys doing the exact same job that would be OK would it? You also complain that " the most vocal group are the have-nots ", but don't you realise that people like me could easily have a Hackney if we wanted one, we just don't want to sit on ranks thank you very much.
We really are 2 sides of one coin and the sooner you realise that, the happier you will be. We have many more issues that unite us and only a few competition issues that divide us. The sooner we have a single tier taxi licensing regime the better ( with grandfather rights to all PHVs) ! :)

Ie although you've got a cartel and monopoly and that's lining your pockets that's still not good enough for you.

I suspect you're making a very handsome income compared to most in the trade, yet still you want more?

A real taxi version of Tesco.

Shame!

Well there aren't restrictions on PH and they seem to do reasonably ok, so wont Hac's work out the same?

But T. , you have to ask yourself why PHVs were created in the first place.
It was because of unmet demand for Pre-booked cabs/taxis/PHV's, call them what you will, and who was not meeting the demand? Why Hackney carriages at the time, but they didn't want more hacks being licensed so what have you got instead ... PHVs to do the work that hackneys wouldn't or couldn't do.

You can rant against PHVs all you like but they exist because of the failure of the hackney trade to serve the public and the attempt by the hackney trade to keep the golden goose all to themselves.

Do you think de-limitation would ever have even been thought about if there had not been so many Councils ( with full backing from their local Hackney Assoc ) , trying to limit numbers for so many years.
If councils had a policy of steady increase then the limits would still be in place albeit at a higher level.

Too many hackney owners can only think of their own short term ££££

But T. , you have to ask yourself why PHVs were created in the first place.
It was because of unmet demand for Pre-booked cabs/taxis/PHV's, call them what you will, and who was not meeting the demand? Why Hackney carriages at the time, but they didn't want more hacks being licensed so what have you got instead ... PHVs to do the work that hackneys wouldn't or couldn't do.

You can rant against PHVs all you like but they exist because of the failure of the hackney trade to serve the public and the attempt by the hackney trade to keep the golden goose all to themselves.

Do you think de-limitation would ever have even been thought about if there had not been so many Councils ( with full backing from their local Hackney Assoc ) , trying to limit numbers for so many years.
If councils had a policy of steady increase then the limits would still be in place albeit at a higher level.

Too many hackney owners can only think of their own short term ££££

I hate to repeat it so often but look at the buses and to a lesser extent the railways.

That is the most sensible and true comment i have ever heard so far on here