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Are we going to get an explanation from the GMB as to why they think Vehicle Standards are lower in Adur than Brighton?


Are we going to get an explanation from the GMB as to why they believe driver standards are lower in Adur than Brighton?

It's alright these organisations making grandiose statements but when it comes facts they miraculously fall silent. Perhaps councillor Burgess can produce a few facts?

If the Brighton GMB can't produce any facts then I can only assume the statement was bullchit from the very beginning.

Regards

JD

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The use of the word GMB certainly gets a big response on this site I must use it to control my kids.

The use of the word GMB certainly gets a big response on this site I must use it to control my kids.

JD

Apologies for the delay, I have spoken to GMB PDB Representatives who have asked me to make the following statement.

A member who posts regularly on this site initiated the GMBPDBs concern on this issue. He has all the relevant information regarding the other councils licensing regimes. It would be decent of him to defend the policy he initiated by personally presenting the case to Brighton's Council leader.
The result of this policy being put in place will be that the Brighton trade will be successful in acquiring several million pounds of work. How destructive of that member and the GMB!

Regards
BB

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IDFIMH

Amongst other things I assume you put the GMB statement on TDO in order that it might be discussed? I don't have to remind you that it's hard to discuss a statement that points an accusing finger without providing any evidence to support it?

The questions I raised were pretty simple and unambiguous and it might be that Brighton has a certain standard that might be lacking in any one or all three of the authorities you mention but on the other hand, one of those three authorities might have standards that Brighton lacks?

Brighton Breezy? Regardless of the person responsible for the press release I am soliciting your views on the matter and asking you, if you believe the GMB statement is correct and why?

No doubt there are varying degrees of competence in the GMB as in all organisations but just because people manoeuvre themselves into what they might consider as positions of "power and influence" it doesn't necessarily follow that they know what they're talking about? From the many posts offered on up on this website it is patently obvious that a high percentage of trade reps haven't a clue what they are talking about? In my opinion for what its worth, this is ably demonstrated by the absurd statement you posted on behalf of the GMB.

My post is not dig at you personally, on the contrary, it's a dig at the GMB and every other organisation who think they can publish unsubstantiated bullchit and expect the rest of us to swallow it hook line and sinker.

Regards

JD

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I find it strange that some people on here quite clearly support the introduction of heightened quality standards ............. yet when they are introduced seek to find some way to belittle their implementation.

Of course, the actual standards suggested will always be contentious, but maybe there should be some admission that some people who seek quality controls rather than quantitative controls what the level to be set where they can operate but still exclude others.

Whatever barriers that are put in the way of someone seeking to enter the trade or work within it will exclude ............. but that exclusion is necessary in order to retain control, by whichever authority has control over Taxi and Private Hire Licensing.

The situation is quite clear to me ...................... the key word is professional.

Drivers should be trained to the highest possible standards ................ and if that includes a test of their driving skill then so be it.
Vehicles should be of a certain standard also, minimum dimensions and full whole body approval should be adhered to.

As long as we seek ways around the Law ................... as long as we seek way to cheat the system ............... as long as we allow our trade to be [edited by admin] from the people who seek to make more from the work that drivers do ............... as long as we operate unprofessionally, our trade will suffer.

Sooner or later someone has to make the stand, someone has to push forward the higher standards issue .................... the bottom line gentlemen is that as much as this site discuss the issues the only time we will see real beneficial change is through unifying our efforts .............. it is the drivers who hold the power in this industry and if the GMBPBD has one National goal it would be to return the power to those that do the work and away from those who exploit this trade.

Yet again TDO seems to talk the talk ................ but it seems only the GMBPDB are willing to walk the walk.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I can assure you that the folks on TDO have achieved more since it started, for the taxi/PH trade, than the GMB ever will.

And it hasn't cost anyone a penny.

Shouting your gob off may get you noticed by 'the powers that be', but in the end if you haven't got the sense and the trust to back up what you shout, then you will be ignored.

That said the GMB might have a good future in the taxi/PH trade, but it will only happen without Terry.

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IDFIMH

Ah .................. so by "folks on TDO" and not TDO itself I assume you apportion some of everyones successes to this webshite then.

And a lot of people have benefitted from the activities of the PDB in Brighton haven't they ................ but the old saying still applies "give someone what they want and they still want more".

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Pardon my observation but what has all this nonsense got to do with some individual making an unqualified untrue statement about Brighton standards both vehicle and driver, being higher than those in ADUR?

We are all for higher quality controls, some of us more so than others but we dont go around making blatent untrue statements about quality controls and driver standards being better in one authority than another. I don't know who wrote this statement but I do know one thing, they don't know what they are talking about. To suggest drivers in other authorities don't have to submit to a CRB check just proves how detached this person is from reality. And that about says it all.

Regards

JD

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TDO has never belittled quality standards but when it comes to wild accusations and statements that have no foundation or fact then some of us just might feel the urge to highlight that fact?

It would appear you are "programmed" to defend every inaccuracy and unlawful act, stated or implemented by Taxi representatives or local councillors.

Perhaps you can enlighten us of these quality vehicle and driver controls that Brighton has, which Adur doesn't? Then again knowing your propensity to prevaricate I won't hold my breath?

JD

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I'm sure my colleague from that area will substantiate the claims he made in due course.

What I'm observing is the fact that a council is taking a stand to improve quality and you as a supposed supporter of Quality Standards should really be applauding their efforts. But you choose to continue on your path regardless.

If we have 3 areas ........... Lets say A, B and C just to make it easier and they each have these policies -

Area A - CRB enhanced check for drivers and normal MOT for vehicle.

Area B - CRB enhanced check for drivers, locality testing and vehicle testing within the councils testing station twice a year.

Area C - CRB enhanced check for drivers, training requirement for drivers (poss BTEC) including DSA test and vehicle testing within the councils testing station twice a year with a 3 year on 7 year off policy on vehicles.

Now say that all the areas bordered each other and Area C put out for tender contract work for their education departments pupil and parent services.

Is it right that Area C has to consider pricing from a operator in Area A?

Is it fair competition for operators in Area C when their running coats are higher than Area A?

Will the customer/client get a better service from the operator in Area A, B or C?

Is it not reasonable for the operator in Area C to be pi$$ed off when the council he is licensed by accepts tenders from people who do not have to meet the requirements of that council.

In your deranged world I suppose your advice would be for the operator in both Area B and C to licence with Area A as that would allow him to be more competitive on prices.

And then you claim to want higher quality standards ............... what it appears that my colleagues in Brighton are doing is insisting that as an Area C type area they are not forced to compete with operators from areas described in A or B.

If you actually supported quality standards or were able to identify what you consider to be quality standards then you would be supporting the activity and not trying to claim it to be something that it is clearly not.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I'm really not interested in your hypothetical analysis of what might occur in certain authorities, if you don't know the answers to the two questions raised by the GMB in Brighton then don't bore us with your drawn out long winded hypothesis of mythical councils.

I'll give Brighton one plus and that is for their introduction of a limited Taxi driver conditions test, which they include in their knowledge.

I suspect the individual who wrote this press release is running around trying to come up with some evidence to support his accusations? Typical.

JD

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No I said what I said, if you can't read then that's not down to me.

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IDFIMH

Well you tell me in what way the local GMB members have benefited.

I'm all ears.

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IDFIMH