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Alex your comment about the member who's Mother died is on there!

I think someone has posted it on there to show their admin that they have been caught out. :wink:

They should be ashamed of themselves, but I doubt they are. :sad:

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Mr T Wrote at the top of the post "Can you send me the link..on a PM.."

So I sent him it


I did not get it..

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I did not get it..

Strange that neither did I. :shock:

Clearly I'm not wanted. :sad:

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I did not get it..

Strange that neither did I. :shock:

Clearly I'm not wanted. :sad:


I am not too sure of that, I think they're just waiting for the price to go higher. :wink:

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It is no secret that this advertising person solicited the help of TDO in order to raise the profile of their magazine and that they were desperate to get their hands on TDO.

This person did very well out of TDO, and his magazine was down-loaded from this site over 1,500 times a month. And it didn't cost him a penny.

Now it is down-loaded 0 times a month. :shock:

Just for the record Taxi'talk' was down-loaded 753 times last month, and PHM 651 times.

Think of all those trees TDO has saved. :D

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Mr T did the same thing when the caabby forum was set up but it didn't make much difference to that outfit and I doubt it will make much difference to this outfit.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

JD, You little snitch! I can hear you now when you were younger, 'please sir, Trevor's passing notes' and then, 'please sir, Wayne's got his own taxi rank and won't let anybody share'

If I remember right you were pretending to be a certain lady poster which Ali T and TDO were replying to in a very friendly manner and which at the time you seemed to enjoy. I sent a pm to this 'lady' and to one or two others, but they were all slightly different, and guess what? the next day you started one of your witch hunts, and posted the pm I sent to 'her'(say no more).

You claim to be a crusader of peoples rights, and freedom of information. but it seems this does not apply with regard to forums. Anybody has the right to choose whichever forum they want and even to tell other people about them. After all we are all old enough to make up our own minds.

Best of luck with your new mag. May I suggest the name 'Witch Hunters Gazette' and of course you could have Skull doing the Agony Aunt column. TDO the cookery section and last but not least, Sussex could cover fashion i.e. string vest and shorts v collar & tie.

P.S. Dr. T is always available for medical advice.

I wonder how long it will be a before she reappears...

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Mr T did the same thing when the caabby forum was set up but it didn't make much difference to that outfit and I doubt it will make much difference to this outfit.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

JD, You little snitch! I can hear you now when you were younger, 'please sir, Trevor's passing notes' and then, 'please sir, Wayne's got his own taxi rank and won't let anybody share'

If I remember right you were pretending to be a certain lady poster which Ali T and TDO were replying to in a very friendly manner and which at the time you seemed to enjoy. I sent a pm to this 'lady' and to one or two others, but they were all slightly different, and guess what? the next day you started one of your witch hunts, and posted the pm I sent to 'her'(say no more).

You claim to be a crusader of peoples rights, and freedom of information. but it seems this does not apply with regard to forums. Anybody has the right to choose whichever forum they want and even to tell other people about them. After all we are all old enough to make up our own minds.

Best of luck with your new mag. May I suggest the name 'Witch Hunters Gazette' and of course you could have Skull doing the Agony Aunt column. TDO the cookery section and last but not least, Sussex could cover fashion i.e. string vest and shorts v collar & tie.

P.S. Dr. T is always available for medical advice.


The fact is Trevor I was informed by several people that you were sending them messages telling them to go to the forum mentioned above, long before the lady in question exposed you with your hand in the cookie jar.

Its not a thing we would do and we don't expect others to do it, its as simple as that?

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JD wrote:
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Mr T did the same thing when the caabby forum was set up but it didn't make much difference to that outfit and I doubt it will make much difference to this outfit.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

JD, You little snitch! I can hear you now when you were younger, 'please sir, Trevor's passing notes' and then, 'please sir, Wayne's got his own taxi rank and won't let anybody share'

If I remember right you were pretending to be a certain lady poster which Ali T and TDO were replying to in a very friendly manner and which at the time you seemed to enjoy. I sent a pm to this 'lady' and to one or two others, but they were all slightly different, and guess what? the next day you started one of your witch hunts, and posted the pm I sent to 'her'(say no more).

You claim to be a crusader of peoples rights, and freedom of information. but it seems this does not apply with regard to forums. Anybody has the right to choose whichever forum they want and even to tell other people about them. After all we are all old enough to make up our own minds.

Best of luck with your new mag. May I suggest the name 'Witch Hunters Gazette' and of course you could have Skull doing the Agony Aunt column. TDO the cookery section and last but not least, Sussex could cover fashion i.e. string vest and shorts v collar & tie.

P.S. Dr. T is always available for medical advice.


The fact is Trevor I was informed by several people that you were sending them messages telling them to go to the forum mentioned above, long before the lady in question exposed you with your hand in the cookie jar.

Its not a thing we would do and we don't expect others to do it, its as simple as that?

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JD


Or was it more of the case .. you were all of the people I sent them to ... in the end it proved the point .

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I think many people on forums take liberties, but mostly it's in fun.

Sometimes it helps get info out to the masses if the person dishing the dirt can keep anon. :roll:

But it is not normal for another forum's admin to tout in an under-hand way on another forum. [-X

Very desperate and very sad indeed. [-(

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Or was it more of the case .. you were all of the people I sent them to ... in the end it proved the point .


In the end it proved you sent it to the wrong person and you were found out. We all know your intentions but that is now water under the bridge and I'm not going to harp on about that. Like I said, we wouldn't do it and we don't expect others to do it.

If subscribers to this site want to promote something then they can do it publicly and if its acceptable and not from a person or persons who are banned then it will probably be sanctioned.

Individuals who post on here are independent and many of them frequent lots of other forums, they are intelligent enough to make up their own minds when it comes to individual decisions. TDO has always encouraged education and debate amongst subscribers and we don't think debate should start and end within the confines of this forum. There is a big wide world out there and the more people who are empowered by knowledge the better.

This website and its subscribers have done more to inform the UK Taxi trade outside of London about Taxi matters than any local or national organisation in the land and that includes the NTA, TGWU, GMBU and everyone else for that matter.

The silence of these organisations when it comes to informing the Taxi trade of news etc. has been and still is, deafening. They peddle their own brand of self interest and often from people who haven't got a clue what they are talking about?

We see certain magazines who month after month substitute fact for fiction and are too scared to print the facts because the facts just don't happen to conform to the doctrine that they believe their readership wants to read?

There is only one place you will get the facts about the Taxi trade and I can assure you its not from those organisations that trump out the nonsense that "councils know best".

This site is proud of what it has delivered and what it will continue to deliver and if it has made others raise their game which I know it has, then that can only be a good thing.

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This website and its subscribers have done more to inform the UK Taxi trade outside of London about Taxi matters than any local or national organisation in the land and that includes the NTA, TGWU, GMBU and everyone else for that matter.


Complete and utter piffle you self opinionated, egotistical, deluded madman.

How on earth do you know what information any 'body' sends to its members or via email?

The fact is, this website, as good as it is, has 1000 members, about 20 of which seem to breath and contribute.

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Err, didn't JD say the "UK taxi trade" rather than NTA members?

Thus perhaps it's you that's the deluded madman? :wink:

The difference is perhaps that any information available on here is free and available to all, whereas...err...what's the NTA subscription again and what proportion of the UK trade have access to all this information disseminated by email?

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Complete and utter piffle you self opinionated, egotistical, deluded madman.


I had a feeling my comments would promt such a response from yourself. lol, I guess you don't like the truth, but then again you never were one for portraying the truth, as per your insinuation that TDO contacted the NCC instead of the other way around.

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How on earth do you know what information any 'body' sends to its members or via email?


I'm not the slightest bit interested in what information an organisation sends to its limited membership, I'm only concerned about what is "openly" accessible to "EVERYONE".

I know what information you don't send to your non members and they amount to 95% of the Taxi trade? Everything with you revolves around paying membership, on the other hand everything with TDO revolves around free and open access.

Everyone can asses the quality of information on TDO, no one outside your limited membership can assess your so called information?

This site and the information contained on it is open to all, we don’t restrict access just because you don't happen to be a member or subscriber? Even NTA members are welcome to access this site, not only that we've put information and case law on here that you and the majority of your membership probably didn't know existed.

I have to remind you that there is a great big Taxi world out there and I'm afraid the NTA is only a very small part of it. The NTA has its own self interest and what information it departs to its members is neither here nor there to me. I have yet to come across an NTA official who actually knows what they are talking about? If they get their information from you then that is hardly surprising?

The difference between TDO and the NTA in respect of information is that TDO is open access and the NTA is a closed shop, hence the fact that you only empower your limited membership and no one else.

TDO empowers "everyone" regardless of who they are or where they’re from? I would have thought that was rather obvious.

Some three years ago I took the NTA to task for having the worst Taxi website in the world of any so called National organisation. Not only was the website design amateurish but there wasn't a scrap of news or information on it. I had to shame you into making it more informative for the whole Taxi trade and all you could say was that you weren't there to inform the Taxi trade, only NTA members. That's a fine attitude to have for an outfit that is supposed to represent the views of the Taxi trade?

I've always said, you don't represent the views of the Taxi trade, you only represent the views of your very limited membership, having the word "National" in your organisational name means absolutely nothing. You represent a specific section of the Taxi trade and your articles of association seem quite definitive to me in spelling out the demarcation line between those you do represent and those you don't represent even though at first sight it might not be so apparent to some?

I don't see a problem with representing one side of the trade or another but the NTA without doubt has a distinct identity crisis. It likes to give the impression that it represents everyone in the trade and this particular message is amplified by both you and the NTA every time you peddle out the lie that you represent the "Taxi trade".

I suppose there is a little Irony in the fact that those who say they represent the Taxi trade had a little get together to see if they could all swim in the same direction? It seams odd to me that we have several organisations saying they represent the Taxi trade yet they have to hold a "pow-wow" in order to try and get everyone singing from the same hymn book? That suggests to me that these organisations are fragmented and represent no one but the self interest of their membership which does not remotely encompass the Taxi trade as a whole.

Everyone knows that TDO represents nobody and unlike the NTA it certainly doesn't allude to the fact that it represents the whole of the Taxi Trade. The only thing TDO alludes to is the fact that it is an information resource and debating forum.

The fact is, you represent Taxi owners and your membership is limited, we know that, you know that and everyone who reads this website knows that, so the next time you peddle out the nonsense that you represent the Taxi trade perhaps it might be wise to consider those people you don't represent because the silent majority who you don't represent far outweigh the ones you do.

Perhaps Skippy has a point about the birth of a new and unfettered organisation that tells it how it is, instead of pandering to one side or another? An organisation with foresight, spunk and the "ability and know how" to get the job done?

Even though lately the NTA has made some sort of limited attempt at making the NTA site more presentable, the end result is that when it comes to information and resources, it is still abysmal.

I know you harp on about the financial resources of the NTA being in a somewhat parlous state but when it comes to resources, news and information you don't need financial commitment to see it through.
However, as you say, you are not interested in anyone who isn't a member of the NTA, therefore a greater public commitment to the taxi trade as a whole is not in your remit? It’s a good job TDO doesn't think like that?

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The fact is, this website, as good as it is, has 1000 members, about 20 of which seem to breath and contribute.


The fact is, you don't like licensing officers and organisations such as the NCC approaching TDO for advice and statistics, you also don't like the fact that we expose illegal practices in areas such as your own. I suppose the NTA told its members that under "Carlisle law" wavs have the exclusive right to work Taxi ranks? Is that right?

We all know what the NTA is about and we can't blame you for trying to defend it but I'm afraid as far as public information is concerned the NTA website is sadly lacking and simply cannot compare with TDO or even many other Taxi websites.

Those are the facts whether you like it or not and anyone viewing the NTA website and this website can see that for themselves.

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A very interesting post JD, I would love to know what you were on when you wrote it.

You claim 95 per cent of the taxi trade is not represented, I ask you why , is it simply because they couldn't be bothered, or are too tight-fisted to join an Association or union.

The NTA clearly only represents its numbers, and makes no claims to represent anyone else as far as I am aware of, the members of the NTA are real people, with real names, and real addresses, and not ghosts on a Taxi forum.

You State about information, the NTA provides a great deal of information long before it is ever posted on here, and that information belongs to its members, the people that are interested in the trade and its future,

Your biggest problem JD, is that you use this forum in a way that Pampers to your own ego, you get your fix by trying to belittle your chosen victim, the impression you leave behind You is of your own making, it's a shame really you do have talent.

Spending an hour or two on here, is nothing compared to the time that is spent by associations in the real world, it costs nothing to be on here, so no fees are needed , the NTA does not charge excessive fees, its bank balance is healthy, but not excessive, if it were cash rich you would be claiming that it rips off it members. it cannot win can it ?

T D O is a good Taxi Forum, it provides news and articles and a place for drivers spend an hour or two, you see it as something else, your own personal audience.

And as for the NTA website it has a purpose, and in the future will become a useful tool. :wink:
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You claim 95 per cent of the taxi trade is not represented,


If you read my post Trevor, you will notice I said, 95% of the Taxi trade is not represented by the NTA.

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I ask you why , is it simply because they couldn't be bothered, or are too tight-fisted to join an Association or union.


I think most people are of the opinion that those at the helm are a waste of time. That's the feedback I get.

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The NTA clearly only represents its numbers, and makes no claims to represent anyone else as far as I am aware of


The NTA is on record as saying it represents the cab trade and so is Wayne Casey. You are of course right it represents its members and how many members does it have? Very few, so why does Mr Casey say the NTA represents the Taxi trade when it obviously doesn't. Unless of course he counts the minority membership associated to the NTA as the Taxi trade but where does that leave the other 95%? Is he saying he represents them too?

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the members of the NTA are real people, with real names, and real addresses, and not ghosts on a Taxi forum.


I'm afraid I don't put myself up as representing anyone, therefore your statement is immaterial.

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You State about information, the NTA provides a great deal of information long before it is ever posted on here, and that information belongs to its members, the people that are interested in the trade and its future,


My original post wasn't about the information the NTA or any other organisation supplied to its membership, my post was about informing all of the taxi trade, not just a handful of members belonging to a private club.

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Your biggest problem JD, is that you use this forum in a way that Pampers to your own ego, you get your fix by trying to belittle your chosen victim, the impression you leave behind You is of your own making, it's a shame really you do have talent.


I don't try and belittle anyone but it's common knowledge that I'll defend this site and those connected with it from anyone who blatantly spouts untruths and innuendoes either on here or in trade magazines, I don't have to mention names because you know very well to whom I refer and so do they.

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Spending an hour or two on here, is nothing compared to the time that is spent by associations in the real world,


Well if that is the case why is the Taxi trade in such a sorry state? What have all these hours you refer to achieved for the Taxi trade? Oh I forgot, you first have to spend 12 months talking to councillors about a fare rise before they tell you to pizz off you can't have one. Is that it?

Apart from your area of sefton what have you gained for the National Taxi trade in the 30 odd years you've been in the trade?

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it costs nothing to be on here, so no fees are needed , the NTA does not charge excessive fees, its bank balance is healthy, but not excessive, if it were cash rich you would be claiming that it rips off it members. it cannot win can it ?


I don't know why you harp on about fees because as far as I can see no one has even mentioned fees. As for you knowing what it costs to be on here I would say you are pretty wide of the mark because you don't really have a clue as to what sacrifices people make in spending time on here or on the internet in general researching material for their own local organisations. You certainly haven't got a clue as to the sacrifices those who run TDO make in order to help others and maintain this site.

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T D O is a good Taxi Forum, it provides news and articles and a place for drivers spend an hour or two, you see it as something else, your own personal audience.


I find that remark quite funny considering I haven't posted a great deal in the last few weeks. I don't know how you see TDO but I see it as the leading source of information and news for the Taxi trade on the Internet. It has taken constant hard work to build this site and to maintain it to the high standards we are accustomed but the good thing is, this site will only get better.

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And as for the NTA website it has a purpose, and in the future will become a useful tool.


Well the NTA website has been up for quite some time but in true NTA fashion it has only taken four years to change the scenery? How long the Taxi trade will have to wait before it rivals TDO is anyone's guess? However as you say, the NTA site has a purpose so why do you feel it needs to change? lol is it because the NTA can see itself being left behind?

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