Taxi Driver Online

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, but most people who register don't post, and no one has ever claimed otherwise - they can't be forced to.

Over the last month or so we've had up to 25 new members a day, but at least 90% are spam, and are normally deleted within a few hours.

Thus only one or so new member per day actually stays on the list, and clearly most don't post at all.

Thus it's hardly surprising that over several years the list has grown, but it's never been claimed that it represents anything like active members.

If we left every new member on the board we'd have tens of thousands by now, but we only leave those that look legitimate - thereafter it's up to them whether they post or not.

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Taxi Driver Online
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Suggesting that a member is using the site to complete their own agenda cannot implicate the site ................ unless you are taking offense because the site is actually involved.

But I must add that as we don't know who you or JD are providing any evidence wouldn't prove anything as you could, and probably would claim that it wasn't you anyway.

I must admit its a good idea not to be accountable for anything you sau or do.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

No, your meaning was clear:

"This site is in place to front an attempt..."

If you'd not meant to implicate the site you would have said something like:

"This site is being used to front an attempt..."

Or if you'd wanted to be really clear:

"This site is being used, unbeknown to the administrators, to front an attempt...."

Your claim certainly read like those running the site were implicated. If that wasn't what you meant then advise you ask Mr Flanagan to draft your next allegation.



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Thought you said TDO was being used?

So you have evidence from named councils that TDO is being used to sell services?

No, thought not




What do you mean? The only way we're not accountable is that you can't send the boys round

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Taxi Driver Online
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Little need for that .................... ask your mate Sussex.

Anyway I shall resort to my earlier post where I pointed out to everyone that I was a fooking taxi driver and so occasionally misuse, inadvertently, words or phrases as my education is not as fulfilled as others who frequent this site and post an a regular basis.

To even suggest that I would wish to see you suffer personal harm because of your opinions is preposterous .................. but no more preposterous than your assumption that you are so important that anyone would place you so important as to warrant causing you harm to silence your opinion.

I love you really

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Back to the issue at hand.

Isn't it about time Terry got around to saying sorry to the Lewes lads?

Or is he too busy sorting out the Irish?

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And they all lived happily ever after.

Until the next time

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Taxi Driver Online
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You deserve respect for your candour.
For the history of these prior exchanges I will look to the link provided by but not yet.

I can see your concerns, even feel them, as memories of occurrences within my union activities spring to mind. It doesn't feel safe being amongst alleged colleagues when you hold a different belief or opinion to the majority view. It rankles more when others join the voices against you and these voices once, seemingly, belonged to your friends. But you can do no more than you have done, you seem to have held on to your beliefs despite the alienation. Not everyone can do that.
I'll probably not comment on the differing perspectives held by the parties after reading the saga at the above link, I don't believe that this will be helpful in the least. But, again, thank you, it does explain a lot, not just to me but to other newbies I'm sure.

To all,
I can liken this or any other forum to a union meeting, branch, regional or national. The dynamics of these meetings are controlled not only by the preset agenda and restrictive options in A(ny).O(ther).B(usiness). but also by time factors and zealous activists prolonging or delaying certain speeches or voting opportunities as well as controlling the processes by which the agenda is set. (No one else turns up basically.)
This kind of thing happens in business too with infighting and unwelcome takeovers.
It's a "human trait" being the point.
Good, or, allegedly, best, practice is for the leaders, Chair, secretary, moderator in this example, to allow for the widest possible views to be heard by as many people as possible before a "decisive" vote.
Above all a forum, of whatever style, setting or nature, should be safe. No-one should feel reticent to comment because of intimidation, direct threat or lack of support.
You travel the tunnelled route if you don't adopt principals that don't accept these basic tenets.
Failing to accept basic principles such as these gets no one anywhere except, perhaps, motivated to opt out of the situation. And that, is no good for any member or any Union.

I'm sorry GA, remember I am not addressing the past, I can honestly say I believe both sides have been represented fairly throughout this topic. That is the GMB view, which is even supported by Sussex at times, and the view of some drivers from Lewes District. Personally I would like to see postings from drivers of Mid-Sussex and Adur but they possibly feel untouched by the lying allegations. Or not, I suppose.
However, I can honestly say that none of my posts have been amended. Nothing has been altered to reflect the views of Sussex and TDO. Look to other postings to see Sussex and myself disagreeing yet again.
From my point of view, if you were right about interference, or just blatant alteration of postings, then I believe your posting informing us of the history between yourselves would not have been allowed and we would have been left in ignorance, or with just the link to the history of your exchanges displayed instead of your current exchanges.
On this basis I believe the integrity of the forum to be correct.
To refer once again to a union level a good chair or secretary should endeavour to draw opinion from the representatives and not suppress it, on a few occasions, rightly or wrongly, I feel that Sussex has done that with me. On the other hand TDO has tried to maintain focus on the topic in hand. With or, without, collusion, to me, this approach is correct. Again I am sorry GA, after your revelations you probably feel you don't deserve that.

However, I feel that you should ask yourself, do your beliefs of the past occurrences exclude acceptance of current reality? You don't need me or anyone else to point you to the lies of the GMB, nor do you need anyone to point you to the facts which prove the lies as the document from Lewes does. You can do this yourself if you can move on from your past experiences.

Leave the bitterness, catch up, join life and leave the Generically Myopic Bunch

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The Seventh Saint

This is what forums, union meetings are all about. You present aview, adopt a stance and hope to persuade others to your view.

leave them, the Generically Myopic Bunch, join life.

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From my point of view, after reading the different statements, it would seem that a certain group of people decided to interfere , rightly or wrongly, with the intention of making sure that the contract work stayed with them, it would also seem that they needed somebody else to do the shouting, it also seems that the unholy alliance blew up in their faces , they created a monster which they could not control....... that's the way I see it.... oh what a tangled web we weave when first we learn to deceive...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

The story so far;
Terence Flanagan, Generically Myopic Bunch Professional Driver Branch Secretary, (Contactable on 07958 275339 or GMB Press Office: Rose Conroy, or Steve Pryle who all three are, seemingly, associated with the GMB Press Office:) are the ones who append their names to the published, disingenuous, in all senses of the word, blatantly misleading lies, for accreditation purposes.
It seems the real target was a Lewes company and not all of the drivers in the three authorities that were alluded to. The intended victims were targeted so that another firm could get the contracts if B&H decided to drop them.
Despite JD pointing out that,
the consensus seems that this firm was the target.

So, it transpires that there are two wrongs.
1)
The publication of a fact less publicity document.
This document containing the totally false allegations about the staff employed by these six authorities and the screamingly absurd allegations that all of the drivers within three of these authorities collude with these authorities to avoid CRB and vehicle safety checks! Absolute madness!

2)
The use of a Union to discredit a business rival.
Member’s money used for this? Not good is it? Not accurate either. CRB and vehicle safety checks are carried out. Not even Ernesto (Che) Guevara could accept such stupidity. O.k. I'll accept that others might in his name, but what the hell, what's one more soiled name to the hundreds maligned by this GMB drivel.

Aaaahhhh! I'm slow but I get there. But it should be obvious to all that the GMB give credence to the oft' misquoted saying that "Two wrongs make a right!". And, as stated earlier, this obtuse logic goes all the way to the top, it has to because, Paul Kenny, General Secretary of the GMB, has made as little an attempt at reconciliation as the culpable trio mentioned above.
No-one should need more proof than this, "two wrongs make it right" hence the silence from this Generically Myopic Bunch. So what is there to reply to.

Thus, it seems, that Mr. Flanagan and cohorts have no need to apologise or atone in any way for their insulting lies. Absolutely nothing, they probably feel that the scum deserve it...? Unless, of course.... Nah! No body on the planet would want to join such a lying ill disciplined crowd of fools such as they.
And, as with their publicity document it is possible that their membership claims will also be false. If so, then recruitment won't be an issue with them! They can just make the figures up thereby ensuring that the policy constraints of the publicity department are those of the GMB per se..

Credit and credence to the truth, leave the Generically Myopic Bunch

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The Seventh Saint

Some very astute observations and comments from Mr Saint that so far have not been addressed and I doubt they ever will.

Regards

JD

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Yes, I missed you out, my great grandson had to leave, but your observation, from where I sit, is just so correct.

PS The quote "..first we learn to deceive..." is derived from "Marmion: A Tale of Flodden Field" (Coloured text below.) By Sir Walter Scott:

"In brief, my lord, we both descried
(For then I stood by Henry's side)
The Palmer mount, and outwards ride,
Upon the earl's own favourite steed:
All sheathed he was in armour bright,
And much resembled that same knight,
Subdued by you in Cotswold fight:
Lord Angus wished him speed."
The instant that Fitz-Eustace spoke,
A sudden light on Marmion broke:
"Ah! dastard fool, to reason lost!"
He muttered; "'Twas nor fay nor ghost
I met upon the moonlight wold,
But living man of earthly mould.
O dotage blind and gross!
Had I but fought as wont, one thrust
Had laid De Wilton in the dust,
My path no more to cross.
How stand we now?--he told his tale
To Douglas; and with some avail;
'Twas therefore gloomed his rugged brow.
Will Surrey dare to entertain,
'Gainst Marmion, charge disproved and vain?
Small risk of that, I trow.
Yet Clare's sharp questions must I shun;
Must separate Constance from the nun -
Oh, what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
A Palmer too!--no wonder why
I felt rebuked beneath his eye:
I might have known there was but one
Whose look could quell Lord Marmion."

Thank you for the contribution and your support, it is appreciated.

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The Seventh Saint

The quotes below are taken from http://www.irishecho.com/archives/archi ... ssueid=406 which reflects on Ernesto (Che) Guevara's Irish lineage, brief visits to Ireland, and observations of his character from those who new him and other observers.

I feel obliged to say a word or two about Ernesto (Che) Guevara and his relevance to the current debate. On a certain website, in a certain forum, a particular GMB rep uses an image of Ernesto (Che) Guevara, either as a banner or shield or, more obviously, a declaration of his intention to win at all cost and sod the consequences. If you are around or near him then you are a potential target or casualty, friend or foe, all are expendable.

This, to me, seems to be the stratagem of the GMB rep whose contemptible lies impugn so many. Rush in, mouth off, forget the casualties, forget truth, and damn your colleagues to even more difficult recruitment campaigns.
Neat huh?


Perhaps the GMB finds it too difficult to deal with this "hard man" who would be Che.
But perhaps they could look to the following for meaningful guidance to the character of the beast and come to terms with the need to exercise “control”.

It would seem that a certain GMB rep does exactly the same with callous disregard for anyone or any factual reality. And this extreme behaviour is a threat to the GMB and the honest endeavours of other unions.

Embrace reality, join life, leave the GMB!

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The Seventh Saint

Did you know Mr SS that the chap you refer to called you a nutter on another forum.

How very dare he.

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