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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:44 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Did you know Mr SS that the chap you refer to called you a nutter on another forum. :shock:

How very dare he. :roll:

I didn't, no.
But there again he, like everyone else has to relieve himself. True, others prefer using another orifice but perhaps he's so full of it he can't prevent it.

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Can there be anyone left on the planet who would believe him I have to ask?
Oh yeeess, the Generically Myopic Bunch! I almost forgot about them.
Never mind, his stupidity does them more harm than me, and to be honest, by not controlling him, or just plain kicking him out because of his disservice to the GMB and other Unions, they do deserve it.
It would be interesting to know who gave him lessons in prattmanship. You have to admit he's taken to these lessons like a wooden doll named Pinocchio to lying. Now there’s a duet worthy of the GMB.

Perhaps his stupidity has him believe that the facts submitted by the Lewes drivers that prove his lies are not real?
Perhaps he thinks a character attack will remove the substantiated factual evidence and make him right? (In this case substantiated means evidenced with documentation and referenced sources, I'm sorry but I had to include this meaning because good 'ole Ernesto (Che) Guevara doesn't seem to understand the significance of proof because of his secluded existence in his made up world.)
Perhaps he is just too mentally impotent to face any intellectual challenge to his blatant stupidity? This is a valid question because he does seem to have trouble grasping reality.

Whatever his delusion, the facts remain unchallenged.
He deliberately maligned several hundred people. He deliberately used lies to do this. Factual evidence, with sourced material, exemplifying his lies are presented in the document from the Lewes drivers. His seedy maliciousness was seemingly to benefit a Brighton based company with the use of members resources, ergo funds. He is so overwhelmed by the logic presented in the Lewes district driver's document that he has to fall back on gutter speak to defend... Defend what I wonder, His integrity?? He's more than a little too late for that.

As I’ve said, his continuing stupidity does more damage to the GMB and other Unions than to me because his abject denial of reality and his misrepresentational skills can only persuade others to leave the GMB and persuade yet even more others that their interests are best served by not joining in the first place.

Join life, leave the GMB.

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Now I know what gmb stands for, and all along I thought it was General Muppet Brain :D :lol:


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Seventh Saint - how do you ever find the time to work? :P

Just curious :wink:


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Sussex wrote:
Back to the issue at hand. :-s

Isn't it about time Terry got around to saying sorry to the Lewes lads?




It seems that with every passing day this becomes more and more unlikely.

When the article is reproduced in other publications (as it has been) what hope for those slurred in this way of an apology of any sort?

None methinks. :-k


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:04 pm 
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GMB Professional (yeah right) Drivers Branch wrote:
Drivers in Lewes might have been misled by alterd posts on another site, this site edits posts, removes posts, and has but one aim IMMEDIATE delimitation on all Hacks Nationwide, the GMBPDB does not support this policy!
Posts by one SUSSEX are really by one MD, also many other aliases on that site!
MD initiated the policy of Brighton council removing all contract work from Lewes Adur and other LAs. Indeed he personally presented the request to Simon Burgess and outlined the reasons HE beleived the other LAs ran inferior licencing regimes compared to Brighton. MD presented to the GMBPDB delegation comprehensive reasons why this policy should be followed, the delegation accepted his argument!
We are somewhat confused as to why he now tries to oppose a policy he personally advocated, anyone wishing to debate this issue with us log on here, but on this issue we will NOT accept aliases. You will need to establish your id by PM to us but will be able to post under an alias.
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So the Seventh Saint and other dopes are incapable of debate. we were right on this issue, and offer no apology! Theres an old saying put up or shut up! 17 year old vehicles, drivers with no knowledge test, being paid the minimum wage, transporting CHILDREN in an area for a council that would not license these vehicles or drivers. We were made aware and were wrong to reveal it?
NEVER GIVE A MUG AN EVEN BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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It does seem very strange why these lads won't come and debate.

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Because they are wrong! and MD ie Sussex,Alex. Dusty Bin, Ollie, and [edited by admin] knows who else. he personally presented the case, very well i might add, end result possibly 2million quids worth of work going into the Brighton Industry.
AGITATE AGITATE ORGANISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I have just been over to their supposed "professional" site and read this load of cobblers. (Mods you can edit their foul language if you wish; there is no need for it in a rational discussion. Oh, the forum software has done that anyhow).

Quite frankly, I am not surprised there is no attempt to reply. I have never encountered someone apparently wishing to discuss matters when they are clearly so damned aggressive. Do they really think people are going to log on to face a tirade like this?

I honestly wonder what I am doing in this trade. I am glad that I have never gone over to the Brighton side, they are clearly as aggressive as we are led to believe. Almost worse than our drunken obscene customers that we are occasionally loath to pick up.

My view of this trade has been slowly but surely diminishing over the last 15 years. Keep this up and I think I shall just leave them all to it to destroy themselves. Maybe I shall go and work with pleasant people who don't feel the need to threaten and abuse. Maybe I shall go and find a trade that values the hard work, honesty and fairness that I have applied to my staff, my drivers and to my competition over the last 15 years - cos these people are really not worth another wasted word.

Last one out turn out the light. :sad:


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AndyR wrote:
Quite frankly, I am not surprised there is no attempt to reply. I have never encountered someone apparently wishing to discuss matters when they are clearly so damned aggressive. Do they really think people are going to log on to face a tirade like this?


Well AndyR .................... I keep coming on here and I regualrly face more abuse than anyone wishing to debate the issue on there would encounter.

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I'm sorry, are we dealing with the modern equivalent of Arthur Scargill?

Oh of course, you northeners are so much harder than us wussy southerners aren't you!?

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So the Seventh Saint and other dopes are incapable of debate. we were right on this issue, and offer no apology! Theres an old saying put up or shut up! 17 year old vehicles, drivers with no knowledge test, being paid the minimum wage, transporting CHILDREN in an area for a council that would not license these vehicles or drivers. We were made aware and were wrong to reveal it?


So the Seventh Saint and other dopes are incapable of debate

Quite capable of debate, what are the last few pages then?

we were right on this issue, and offer no apology!

We are right, we don't want to listen to what anyone else says. We don't care about anyone elses opinion. Nobody else can possibly be right can they? No, of course not, otherwise the GMB may just have to offer an apology.

Theres an old saying put up or shut up!

As above, we are right so get used to it, also seen as a somewhat aggressive stance by everyone that has read this in my office. Actually they are somewhat amazed by this old fashioned dictorial attitude.

17 year old vehicles, drivers with no knowledge test, being paid the minimum wage

17 year old vehicles - PSV not Lewes District hackney vehicles. PSV drivers don't need a knowledge test. If people are willing to work for the minimum wage then it is down to them and anyway it is taking the argument away from the main one, that is, the slur is on the whole of Lewes District and surrounding areas hackney and private hire drivers and vehicles.

I agree, it is not on, but why run down the entire fleet of Lewes, Arun and Mid Sussex when the argument is with one errant PSV operator, not a taxi company?

transporting CHILDREN in an area for a council that would not license these vehicles or drivers.

But the company was deemed as acceptable by the issuer of those contracts. Why is that the fault of ALL those taxi drivers and companies that you are bad mouthing? We have been denied the opportunity to quote for that type of job for a while, why have they had the opportunity to do so? With 17 year old vehicles? Why has Brighton not done something about them? Why are Brighton allowed to take jobs from outside their area, but we are not? Oh, of course, dictatorship. Or back handers?

We were made aware and were wrong to reveal it?

You were wrong because you didn't reveal it for what it is. You (GMB, not you personally - possibly) revealed it as all surrounding districts not being up to scratch. Wrong, wrong, wrong and deserving of an apology for unsubstantiated claims made by the GMB against honest, hard working folk. Folk like myself and my drivers. Then you wonder why people are up in arms.

Come out of the 1960's and join us in the new century. Cut out the aggressiveness and blinkered "we are right, nobody else matters" approach and maybe you will stimulate a more reasoned debate.


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GA wrote:
So the Seventh Saint and other dopes



I've been called worse.


You haven't been sniffing dope have you? Or even worse smoking the stuff? :wink:


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GA, some 3 pages back wrote:
I think that the problem lies in PSV operators using vehicles with less than 8 passenger seats and using drivers or vehicle escorts with no CRB check.


If the original GMB article had approached it from that direction, there would have been no outcry. No demands for apology. None of this at all.


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AGITATE AGITATE ORGANISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That, along with the avatar on the GMB forum says it all.

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Drivers in Lewes might have been misled by altered posts on another site, this site edits posts, removes posts


I, for one, have had no posts altered or removed. Are you saying I am lying?

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MD initiated the policy of Brighton council removing all contract work from Lewes Adur and other LAs. Indeed he personally presented the request to Simon Burgess and outlined the reasons HE beleived the other LAs ran inferior licencing regimes compared to Brighton. MD presented to the GMBPDB delegation comprehensive reasons why this policy should be followed, the delegation accepted his argument!
We are somewhat confused as to why he now tries to oppose a policy he personally advocated


Sussex, are they referring to you or JD?


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AndyR wrote:
17 year old vehicles - PSV not Lewes District hackney vehicles.

Just for clarification sake they are licensed PH, not PSV.

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AndyR wrote:
Sussex, are they referring to you or JD?

Who knows who they are referring to?

And for that matter does anyone really care? :?

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GA wrote:
So the Seventh Saint and other dopes



I've been called worse.


You haven't been sniffing dope have you? Or even worse smoking the stuff? :wink:


Oh I see ................... you don't want to go onto the GMB site because you think they would be nasty to you ................. aaaaahhhhhhhh bless.

Hang on a fooking minute .................... why don't you just go on there and post the same personal insults as you've posted on here.

For fooks sake ................... I don't understand people who like hitting people with sticks but cry like a baby when they get a clout back.

I didn't write the press release ........................ I had no input into it .................... I didn't start, get involved with or even seek to bring the argument to a conclusion.

B. Lucky :D

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Sussex wrote:
AndyR wrote:
17 year old vehicles - PSV not Lewes District hackney vehicles.

Just for clarification sake they are licensed PH, not PSV.


I am sorry?? Over 8 passenger seats should be PSV surely?

So how can they be PH or HC?


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GA wrote:
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GA wrote:
So the Seventh Saint and other dopes



I've been called worse.


You haven't been sniffing dope have you? Or even worse smoking the stuff? :wink:


Oh I see ................... you don't want to go onto the GMB site because you think they would be nasty to you ................. aaaaahhhhhhhh bless.

Hang on a fooking minute .................... why don't you just go on there and post the same personal insults as you've posted on here.

For fooks sake ................... I don't understand people who like hitting people with sticks but cry like a baby when they get a clout back.

I didn't write the press release ........................ I had no input into it .................... I didn't start, get involved with or even seek to bring the argument to a conclusion.

B. Lucky :D



You didn't spot the :wink: at the end of that?

I'd love to go on "there" and post the same, but why should I when I have to be "approved" as genuine by providing personal details. A log on should be enough, no other forum I am on asks for more than that. I trust you are who you say you are. Not my problem if you are incapable of trusting me.

Why lower yourself to the use of the 'f' word? Let's be honest, you are only using the derivative of it to avoid the forum software censor.

Who is crying like a baby?

Have you answered any of my questions? Nope.

I appreciate you didn't write the article in question, however you have made yourself the spokesman for anyone who dares to criticise the things it says.

There are things I agree with that you have said, it is just the rest of it you refuse to answer. I have not hit anyone with a stick. I put in the dope comment to see if I would be proved correct. I have been, you have answered that one with the usual aggressive bombasticness.


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