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NEWCASTLE IN A QUANDARY OVER CROSS BORDER HIRING? THE LATEST...
In the March Issue on page 40 of Press Cuttings Monthly we did an article
Mr Mite means I did an article and all copyright belongs to me and TDO and not him. The article can be found in the TDO news section and a thread was also instigated at this location.
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in respect of the issues highlighted by Newcastle licensing department about what they see as cross border hiring. The article can be found and downloaded from, "deleted" by popular demand.
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BY JD in the article that the only way Newcastle council were going to get satisfaction is to take this issue to court. Quote:
The following article from the Evening chronicle on Friday June 8, 2007 explains the latest developments of the situation.
A battle over cabbies getting cut-price licences in Berwick then plying for trade on Tyneside may end up in court. Newcastle City Council has condemned the practice and is asking Berwick Council to call a halt or face legal action.
Officials, backed by cabbies' leaders, say they are concerned about public safety because they have no control over the vehicles. The move also means more cabs are on to the streets of Newcastle in contravention of a restriction on numbers set by the city council. If the dispute is not settled, the city council is threatening to seek a judicial review, which means the case will be decided by a judge. Drivers can obtain a hackney carriage or private-hire licence in Berwick for around £125, plus a £57.15 test fee for the vehicle. In Newcastle, hackney carriage licences cost £318 and private-hire licences £315. Vehicle test costs are on top. Officials reckon that 62 hackney carriage vehicle proprietors' licences obtained in Berwick have addresses in Newcastle, and another 32 have addresses in North Tyneside. Newcastle Council claims Berwick is acting unlawfully, wants the practice is stopped and existing licences are revoked. But Berwick Council says it cannot refuse an application simply because people may then use the licences outside the borough.
Coun Anita Lower, Newcastle's executive member for regulation, said: "We have a lot of concerns about cars and drivers not licensed in Newcastle working in Newcastle. Local residents have a right to expect the standards we've set on matters, such as vehicle checks, are adhered to." A Berwick Council spokesman said: "In order to licence a person as a driver the council must be satisfied that the person is a fit and proper person and operating outside the borough cannot, in our opinion, make a person unsuitable.
All licensed vehicles meet the council's current safety standards." Another concern is that drivers do not have to take the Newcastle "knowledge" test and some of the cabbies are said to be from Poland with little command of the English language. Chris Chandler, regional chairman of the National Taxi Association and a member of Newcastle Owner Drivers' Association, said local cabbies back the action being taken by Newcastle Council. He said the Berwick-licensed cabbies are plying for trade in places such as Newcastle city centre, Whitley Bay and Tynemouth.
"The main concern is one of public safety," said Mr Chandler. "There is a limit on the number of licences issued because surveys show there are sufficient taxis in Newcastle and North Tyneside."
So we have Chris Chandler making statements, we have Cllr Anita Lower making statements in the Evening Chronicle ........... that much is very clear however no comment about these statements, this seems to form the basis for the delusional JD's personal attack but lets see where he takes us.
the delusional JD wrote:
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Mick Pollard of the GMBPDB Northern Branch puts his views on the above news article.
I think there is more to this than meets the eye
Highly entertaining, lets see what Mick comes up with?
Indeed as I haven't come up with anything yet so it should be entertaining.
the delusional JD wrote:
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Berwick upon Tweed plates have been seen working under PH contracts as far away as South Wales.
It would seem Mick Pollard has exceptional eyesight because he can not only see into the future, he can also see through six English county councils and three Welsh county councils. However no one in Wales has ever seen or heard of a Berwick hackney carriage driver working anywhere in South Wales or even any part of Wales for that matter? I am beginning to wonder if this guy is really on the same planet as the rest of us?
It would seem that the delusional JD knows every single driver in Wales, as he claims to have spoken to them all, strange that he fails to identify where the quote comes from, it may well have been off here, but one thing is for sure the statutory register from Berwick Council has some startling entries and substantiates the sighting of Berwick licensed vehicles as the drivers and vehicles are registered with Berwick council at addresses there. BTW I'm not on the same planet as the delusional JD cause he's there on his own.
the delusional JD wrote:
It might not have escaped your attention but Mick Pollard miserably fails to mention which of the 13 Welsh Counties this Berwick hackney carriage driver was seen working and by whom?
The information is available on Berwick Councils website I believe, the statutory register is definitely available from their offices and the library there.
the delusional JD wrote:
Mick then reminds us that,
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The fact remains that these vehicles and drivers are working in contravention of their local by-laws
You might think this is a brilliant observation by the man who re invents himself every five minutes but we can't help but notice that he doesn't actually say which bylaws are being broken?
I can't reinvent myself JD ..................... everyone knows who I am.
the delusional JD wrote:
So we have a clairvoyant from Gateshead who can see through his crystal ball that Berwick cab drivers are working in South Wales and who states they are breaking Berwick bylaws yet he cannot pinpoint where they are working and nor can he provide evidence of which bylaws they are breaking?
I can see into your future JD .................. at least if you stop you can walk away from your statements and allegations without recourse or your personal and professional reputation being threatened.
the delusional JD wrote:
I think we expect nothing else from the clockwork orange of the taxi trade yet I must point out that it also shows the stupidity of one Mr Tony Mite who allowed the diatribe to be put into print. I suppose that's the price you pay for knowing very little about the infinite workings of the taxi trade?
Mr Mite who we all know has a distinct lack of knowledge of the Taxi trade did not realise the absurdity of the comments eminated by the man from Gateshead. I can't say I have any pity for Mr Mite because in my opinion he is a man of dubious character. Any man who trades off the ideas of others, is to me a fraud. And Mr Mite certainly fits into that category as my personal messages from me to him and vise versa will verify.
Naming names again Mr JD .................. pity you are to scared to put forward your own and add some credibility to your insane ramblings.
the delusional JD wrote:
Mr Pollard goes on to say
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...and there is no way that they will be caught as Berwick Enforcement don't come to Newcastle and Newcastle enforcement cannot enforce Berwicks by-laws.
A Brilliant observation by Mr Pollard and one that deserves a round of applause but you might be at a loss in wondering what Mr Pollard means when he says "AND THERE IS NO WAY THEY WILL BE CAUGHT" lol caught at what? Mr Pollard is of the opinion that Berwick hackney carriage drivers working as private hire drivers in Newcastle are breaking the law? Shall we enlighten Mr Pollard and inform him that these Berwick licensed hackney carriage drivers are not breaking the law and if he is going to put his thoughts into print then at least he should be accurate in what he says.
Caught overcharging ............ caught not complying to the local conditions ............... come on JD stop adding words .................. I understand that the practice is legal .................. I just wonder why someone who supposedly supports quality standards would allow a vehicle to operate 300 miles away from an officer authorized to enforce those conditions or by-laws.
the delusional JD wrote:
Mick Pollard then starts rambling on about Testing stations as though they have a relevance to the way drivers prefer to work? Added to this nonsense he highlights the monetary intake of Berwick license fees as though they were a regular goldmine?
So the monetary intake for Berwick plates is sent down to Newcastle where the vehicles were previously licensed and where they continue to work ........ the testing of vehicles outside of the licensing area is surely not in anyone's benefit, other than the drivers who don't have to make a 100 mile or more round trip to get their vehicles checked.
the delusional JD wrote:
He then throws in the added ingredient of public safety as though public safety in Berwick is somewhat inferior to public safety in Newcastle.
If the vehicles are operating in Newcastle how would that effect the safety of the people in Berwick ............ and where is the quote that states that anyway ............... or are you just starting to make things up again
the delusional JD wrote:
Pollard things the public of Newcastle should be confined to using only vehicles that are licensed in Newcastle. He also has the same warped attitude to his own authority of Gateshead. He fails to realise that the world doesn't begin and end in Newcastle or Gateshead and that Newcastle residents who travel to Berwick in a Taxi will probably use a Berwick taxi for the return journey and the same applies to Gateshead and every other authority.
Yes I think that if a person phones their local private hire office and they have a problem they should be able to phone their local council and have that complaint dealt with by the people they elected.
I have driven cabs in the North East for 17 years ................ and I have never had a fare to Berwick .................... must just be unlucky then eh JD.
the delusional JD wrote:
So you can see how warped the mindset of this man really is.
I think that people can see who's mind is warped JD .............. oh dear here's another example.
the delusional JD wrote:
The people of Newcastle couldn't give a chit who takes them home, the problem is not with residents of Newcastle and their preferred choice of transport, on the contrary its about the working habits of Newcastle Cab drivers and their notion that only they should be allowed to transport the Newcastle public.
The people in Newcastle don't give a chit (as you put it) but surely you aren't suggesting that the council should stand by and watch unlicensed vehicles picking people up off the streets ............... and that's why they should maintain a level of control on whom should be licensed to carry the public and for the same reasons they should be able to enforce the law to its full extent on anyone acting illegally so they need to know who these people are and what they are driving so that they can be sure that the people are fit and proper and their vehicles are safe for public use.
Now what were you saying about a warped mind.
the delusional JD wrote:
I don't really give a chit about Mick Pollard or Newcastle but I do give a chit about idiots who spout nonsense. Especially those idiots who put themselves up as representing the Taxi trade, such as the likes of Mick Pollard.
So why write all this chit ................ your the one spreading chit JD and that's why you don't put your name to anything, you can hide away and then come out again when the heat is off, or you've added so many stories you have taken from elsewhere so that the thread is not even on the first page of the forum.
the delusional JD wrote:
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It should also be mentioned that it has been suggested that Berwick Council have an approved testing station in Newcastle for their cars working out of area ...oh and it should also be highlighted that Berwick Council are taking at least £11,750 per year WITHOUT providing any enforcement and therefore incurring costs. (those figures are based on the vehicles licensed in Newcastle and North Tyneside and the licensing fee without vehicle tests. it does not include vehicles working elsewhere or drivers who don't live in either Newcastle or North Tyneside.)
You can see by the comments above that Pollard is way out of his depth when it comes to licensing law even though we here on TDO have gone to great lengths on numerous occasions to point out his failings. I dont know what prompted him to think that he could get away with writing this nonsense but everything comes to him who waits?
The heat is obviously not to the liking of Mr JD ............... berate the person when you cannot properly answer the allegations as written.
the delusional JD wrote:
Mick then reminds us that standards begin and end in Newcastle.
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The public in Newcastle should be assured that if they get into a taxi or PH vehicle in Newcastle that it has been checked and meet the standards of Newcastle City Council .... as well as the driver of it.
But Mick conveniently forgets to realise that what if some of the Newcastle public just happen to be in one of the other 342 licensing authorities, are they going to phone a Newcastle cab firm to take them home?
Give us a break Mick, Grow up for once and stop talking like a clown.
There are now numerous PH offices who have HC from other areas working (legally) under a PH contract ............. this means that they phone a Newcastle or Gateshead or North Tyneside cab firm and are taken home or taken out by a HC licensed in another authority.
I totally stand by the opinion I have of this situation.
What is not properly presented by JD is the fact the I do in fact understand that the practice is legal ................ I suggest that it is neither best practice nor in the public's interest.
I stand, and put my name to the calls for higher standards within our industry and will speak out when I believe a law is wrong ................ just as JD did himself when we all supported the action taken by the government with regard S75.
If the gentleman had the courage of his convictions he would put his name to his opinion or if unwilling debate the issues raised without resorting to personal insults.
Unfortunately he cannot ............. he has proved before on the issue in Carlisle regarding my friend Mr Wayne Casey that he to easily resorts to witch-hunt tactics ............ and he does this because he is not accountable because of his anonymity.
B. Lucky
