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She never did call me, either.

Can you blame her? :roll:

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But to return to the original thread, in 1994, Council Officers (in Lincoln)recommended to the licensing committee that they should "protect" WAV's by giving them exclusive access to prime ranks. Is it a coincidence that this was at the same time as a similar proposal was put forward in Carlisle? A remarkable coincidence, if it were one.
Of course, JD's character assasination of Captain Cab over this matter is well recorded, and his distraction tactics used in this thread comes as no great surprise to me.

Lincoln Council were clearly ill advised by officers who should have known better than to put forward a proposal that is(now seen to be) clearly illegal. But the proposal is identical to the one promulgated by Carlisle City Council in the same year of 1994.

I think JD owes Wayne Casey an apology.

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She never did call me, either.

Can you blame her? :roll:


I thank her. Every day. :wink: :wink: :lol:

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I have in my hand a piece of paper....

Have you a computer in the loo then? :shock:


A taplop.

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jimbo wrote:
I think JD owes Wayne Casey an apology.


An apology for what exactly? There was no character assassination of Wayne Casey, he made his own bed to lie in. He was biased to the fact that he preferred to keep saloon hackney carriages from plying for hire on the busiest Taxi rank in Town. I think the apology should come from people like you for insinuating that what I wrote about Casey and Carlisle was incorrect. When in fact everything I wrote was correct and that’s what Casey and people like you can't stomach.

If you put yourself in the public eye and promote or give tacit approval to policies that are illegal then you must expect criticism from those who find the practice abhorrent.

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JD wrote:
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I think JD owes Wayne Casey an apology.


An apology for what exactly? There was no character assassination of Wayne Casey, he made his own bed to lie in. He was biased to the fact that he preferred to keep saloon hackney carriages from plying for hire on the busiest Taxi rank in Town. I think the apology should come from people like you for insinuating that what I wrote about Casey and Carlisle was incorrect. When in fact everything I wrote was correct and that’s what Casey and people like you can't stomach.

If you put yourself in the public eye and promote or give tacit approval to policies that are illegal then you must expect criticism from those who find the practice abhorrent.

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There was no sweetheart deal in Carlisle, nor was there almost one in Lincoln.

It is now crystal clear to me that the policies were promoted by the politicians both national and local and their advisors in 1994. Had a similar policy been adopted in Lincoln I would have been unaware that the rank restrictions were illegal. Mr Casey can speak for himself no doubt.

I never gave approval, tacit or otherwise,to the practise of rank restrictions. Nor would I.

I can tell I struck a raw JD nerve judging by the reaction. How long have you been sitting on those press cuttings, JD?

By the way, I love you.

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I can tell I struck a raw JD nerve judging by the reaction. How long have you been sitting on those press cuttings, JD?



I thought it was JD who'd struck the raw nerve when I saw that you'd quoted the whole post just to add six words :roll: [-X

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Suggested by the Government Green Paper on Taxi and PH.


So it was never brought into law then?

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And enthusiastically embraced by Local Government Officers.


Well they might have thought it a good idea, but until the relevant legislation was passed, it would be illegal to adopt it?

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Rejected by City Councillors, who clearly "knew best?


Rejected by city councillors who perhaps knew the law, unlike those in Carlisle who knew best and ignored the law?

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I can tell I struck a raw JD nerve judging by the reaction. How long have you been sitting on those press cuttings, JD?



I thought it was JD who'd struck the raw nerve when I saw that you'd quoted the whole post just to add six words :roll: [-X


Six too many.

What point was Mr Mystery trying to make by publishing News quotes from 38 YEARS ago?

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I can tell I struck a raw JD nerve judging by the reaction. How long have you been sitting on those press cuttings, JD?



I thought it was JD who'd struck the raw nerve when I saw that you'd quoted the whole post just to add six words :roll: [-X


Six too many.

What point was Mr Mystery trying to make by publishing News quotes from 38 YEARS ago?


Considering Lincoln is very rarely in the news I thought I would give a brief commentary of some of the past happenings in respect of licensing matters. Especially considering it was you who brought the 1994 item to our attention.

I thought the 1969 article might have interested even you, assuming you were unaware of its existance.

I took the liberty of taking your personal details out of those articles which as you know included your name, phone numbers, home and email address. I hope that didn't offend you?

By the way, considering you were around in 1994 perhaps you can tell us the name of the LO or person who put forward the illegal proposal and if at any stage he consulted or informed the local hackney carriage or private hire trade of these recommendations?

Perhaps that report you quoted from has a department reference and name?

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I found this copy of a licensing committee meeting recently, dated 19/1/1994.

Not Carlisle, but Lincoln. Coincidence?

Council Officers recommended that:-

" (1) to agree in principle to a single licensing regime and to bear in mind the need to protect those owners/operators who have wheelchair accessible vehicles by provision of and access to prime site ranks"

AND,

"If there is no limit on the number of vehicles licensed under a one or two tier system save by market forces some protection/advantage should be afforded to owners/operators who have acquired wheelchair accessible vehicles either by mandatory order of a local council or on a voluntary basis to provide an extra services.(sic) This could be by limiting access to specified ranks at prime locations and B.R. (British Rail) forecourts."

AND,

"operators who have WAV's should be the only ones to be allowed to use designated ranks and B.R. forecourt. This will reward the operator..."


Some might say this licensing officer and officers are not fit and proper to hold their positions? Some others might say they are in need of a comprehensive course of re-training.

I think the Taxi trade should be made aware of who these people are just in case they are still trying to practise their own brand of illegal condition making. lol

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Perhaps it was some kind of input re the green paper rather than a concrete proposal for local implementation?

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Perhaps it was some kind of input re the green paper rather than a concrete proposal for local implementation?


Quite likely.

I think there may be a few holes in Jimbos interpretation of the events leading up to this report. Considering he was around at the time I find it odd that he can't furnish us with any background to the events leading up to this report.

I keep asking myself would an LO think up all those proposals and put them to a committee all on his own without consulting anyone?

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I keep asking myself would an LO think up all those proposals and put them to a committee all on his own without consulting anyone?



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Perhaps it was some kind of input re the green paper rather than a concrete proposal for local implementation?


Quite likely.

I think there may be a few holes in Jimbos interpretation of the events leading up to this report. Considering he was around at the time I find it odd that he can't furnish us with any background to the events leading up to this report.

I keep asking myself would an LO think up all those proposals and put them to a committee all on his own without consulting anyone?

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After you kept asking yourself that big question, what was the conclusion you came to, JD?

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