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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Think you,ll find that Mr Geraint Anwel back tracked on his statement very quickly when it was proved that that article was completely untrue, he has even gone to the extent of assigning a liason directly answerable to him to now help us push for licensing of all limos.

I personally have met his liason on several occasions and she is instrumental along with VOSA ,DVLA and DFT staff in moving things forward very quickly.

No 1847 archaic legislation for us.

If certain ppl on here really do have the connections they imply within these departments then they would already know this.

How many actually bother? As you drivers don't actually work for your ops (or so you say) who checks them?
I think this has more to do with looking after the vehicle than any public safety concern.

They actually work quite well. Considering the size of the HC & PH trade in the UK Incidents are relatively few. We highlight the cases you mention, we do not attempt to hide them. Its a large ocean out here, and there are always going to be a few sharks. Compulsory licencing and CRB checks for everyone keeps the numbers small. It doesn't work if the good guys get checked and the bad guys don't have to.
I hope you were touching wood when you said this. Define 100% safety record.
Sounds more like luck than judgement - if it's true. Where did you get the figures from?

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No-one has ever been killed or seriously injured in a limousine FACT.
Figures came a goverment source.

I came here to advise on any technical queries or issues you guys may have yet seem to be constantly debating points which quite honestly are old news , as the relevant govermant bodies are moving towards a licensing system for all why should i argue the toss.

The chauffeur hire agencies check the drivers PSV and CRB they have to or they could be liable for huge compensation if anything went amiss.

You see my father and uncle have been taxi drivers all their lives and my uncle was 1 of 7 people who started the largest taxi firms in the midlands , he since has retired due to cancer , but i have a great insight into the HC/PH world , infact more than most would believe.This has helped alot with the way forward for limousines, i dont see your system as anywhere near right . What i see is a system which skirts around the edge of passenger safety yet allows LA,s etc to reap huge financial rewards for very little outlay . The laws controlling HC/PH are just to far out of date and have been messed around with so much to try and bring them into the modern world that they really dont resemble anything but a mishmash of ill thought out plans with no clear direction accept that of financial gain for LA,s .

Dont get me wrong im not having a go , its obvious many HC/PH drivers , owners feel the same way , but we are trying not to fall into the trap with being pushed into PH as it exsits because it simply doesnt sit right with american limos.

Can you honestly say that the council tester really knows what he is looking at when he test a limo , ive not met one yet that does, most just muddle through testing as if they were testing a 406 or a Mondeo and limos are neither.

We need are own criteria simply to make sure that no unsafe vehicles are allowed on the road because a tester was ignorant of certain components which he had no idea how to test properly.

The law still states its illegal to plate a lefthand drive vehicle or a vehicle with side facing seats. Yet councils through greed in some places license , this is wrong , its not ok to break laws just because theres no law that applys correctly. Sorry but i dont agree with licensing limos until they are inspected and checked CORRECTLY , at present it may keep you boys and some councillors happy but it doesnt sit well with me that potentially unsafe limos can roll around legally because they have paid the bribe councils demand.

We see a lot of limos , servicng them etc and believe me very few are badly maintained infact the licensed ones tend to show wear in the places a HC/PH tester would not recognise and so lets go, because they are licensed they in certain cases are far worse than unlicensed ones. Unlicensed limos get checked by VOSA in this area very very regulaly whereas licensed ones dont.

I came here hoping to find some constructive suggestions but alas it would seem easier for the some of the members of this forum to take potshots rather than give anysort of input which would maybe aid our quest to become a fully legitimate industry.

Not to worry we,ve done very well so far i suppose it may have been to much to think we could all work together ,i suppose the competition between the two industries clouds peoples thinking.

How many of you actually carry hay for your horse?

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Grandad,

I Haven't been required to since 1982.

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Myth and legend.

Regards

JD

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