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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:42 pm 
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Probably many differing views on this subject? However its no fun having someone throw up your cab, especially when its extremely difficult to get compensation for the time lost.
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September 12, 2007

Reveller chucked out of taxi after drunken night

A RUGBY woman has criticised a taxi company after a driver chucked her out of his cab and left her to walk alone after a night out in town.


Helen Turner, 28, got into a Fone-a-Car taxi after a night out in Rugby in the early hours of last Sunday morning.

She asked to be taken to her home in Millbank, Brownsover, but was sick in the cab on route.

Helen said that the driver immediately dropped her off at the petrol station in Leicester Road leaving her to walk home on her own.

She said: "I admit was drunk and was sick - that's totally my fault - but I still think he should have driven me home.

"I was in a very vulnerable state and to leave me to walk home on my own was totally irresponsible.

"The driver chucked me out for being sick - but if the mess was already there - why not take me home and then clean it up?"

In the end Helen was able to get home by calling her boyfriend but said the experience had put her off going into town.

The driver of the taxi, who did not want to be named, said he was within his rights to chuck Helen out.

He said: "I couldn't take the risk that she was going to be sick again so decided to drop off her at the garage because I knew it was manned and she could get help.

"Any driver would have done the same thing. As soon as a passenger is sick it's normal policy to ask them to leave.

"I couldn't continue my journey and lost out on potential earnings."

The driver added that Miss Turner had since agreed to pay his cleaning fee of £70.

Do you think the taxi driver was right to make Helen walk after soiling the taxi?

Email ken.mcerlain@rugbyadvertiser.co.uk
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I was in a very vulnerable state and to leave me to walk home on my own was totally irresponsible.


As ever it is the driver who is responsible or irresponsible.

When are people ever going to take responsibility for their own actions, she could have called her boyfriend in the first instance, chucked up in his car and saved herself £70.

If It has put her off going into Town, then good job, that is one fare we can all do without.

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I was in a very vulnerable state and to leave me to walk home on my own was totally irresponsible. S
She was in a p*ssed state and any irresponsibility was hers.

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She would have defo done the last bit on her legs.

The fresh air would have done her some good.

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JD wrote:
She said: "I admit was drunk and was sick - that's totally my fault - but I still think he should have driven me home.


If someone is sick in your car the first thing you want to do is clean it up, the last thing you want is for it to soak into the seats or swirl around on the floor.

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In the end Helen was able to get home by calling her boyfriend but said the experience had put her off going into town.


Of course it has, I bet she was out in town the week after.

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We had a driver loose his operators licence for doing the same thing, she was put out in the middle of nowhere and on a frosty night next to a busy road, the police found her and took her to the hospital for a check up the council stated that even though the passenger had been sick the driver still had a duty of care and that he had failed in that duty.
They informed us all that once a passenger has entered your vehicle you are fully responsible for the safety and well being of that passenger until they have reached there destination


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We had a driver loose his operators licence for doing the same thing, she was put out in the middle of nowhere and on a frosty night next to a busy road, the police found her and took her to the hospital for a check up
As far as i am concerned,he deserved to lose his ops licence!

All he had to do was carry on with the journey and then charge the soiling charge.Obviously he did not have a concience even tho there is nothing worse than someone hoying up in the car :shock: :shock:

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skippy41 wrote:
We had a driver loose his operators licence for doing the same thing, she was put out in the middle of nowhere and on a frosty night next to a busy road, the police found her and took her to the hospital for a check up the council stated that even though the passenger had been sick the driver still had a duty of care and that he had failed in that duty.
They informed us all that once a passenger has entered your vehicle you are fully responsible for the safety and well being of that passenger until they have reached there destination


I would argue that I have a duty of care to myself and my family. I am also thinking that health and hygiene would and should come into it.

Why should we have the contents of someones stomach swimming around the car getting into every crevice, and not knowing what germs/viruses it might contain.

By not cleaning up as soon as possible, who knows what you might miss.

I would also argue that we have an unwritten contract that requires them to conduct themselves in a proper manner. Just how much are we expected to nursemaid the public.

If someone chucks up in a pub, and is then told to leave - are they wrong because they have not shown a duty of care in making sure that they got home.

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cabby john wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
We had a driver loose his operators licence for doing the same thing, she was put out in the middle of nowhere and on a frosty night next to a busy road, the police found her and took her to the hospital for a check up the council stated that even though the passenger had been sick the driver still had a duty of care and that he had failed in that duty.
They informed us all that once a passenger has entered your vehicle you are fully responsible for the safety and well being of that passenger until they have reached there destination


I would argue that I have a duty of care to myself and my family. I am also thinking that health and hygiene would and should come into it.

Why should we have the contents of someones stomach swimming around the car getting into every crevice, and not knowing what germs/viruses it might contain.

By not cleaning up as soon as possible, who knows what you might miss.

I would also argue that we have an unwritten contract that requires them to conduct themselves in a proper manner. Just how much are we expected to nursemaid the public.

If someone chucks up in a pub, and is then told to leave - are they wrong because they have not shown a duty of care in making sure that they got home.


So If you pick up a passenger and they all of a sudden start bleeding you would kick them out or if they had a heart attack, ffs remind me never to get into your cab if I'm ever down there and taken ill.
could i ask you if your council has a training course in place where by you have to complete first aid, disability awareness, vehicle maintenance and customer awareness, If not you should have, as your attitude is something to be desired, NOT


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skippy41 wrote:
cabby john wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
We had a driver loose his operators licence for doing the same thing, she was put out in the middle of nowhere and on a frosty night next to a busy road, the police found her and took her to the hospital for a check up the council stated that even though the passenger had been sick the driver still had a duty of care and that he had failed in that duty.
They informed us all that once a passenger has entered your vehicle you are fully responsible for the safety and well being of that passenger until they have reached there destination


I would argue that I have a duty of care to myself and my family. I am also thinking that health and hygiene would and should come into it.

Why should we have the contents of someones stomach swimming around the car getting into every crevice, and not knowing what germs/viruses it might contain.

By not cleaning up as soon as possible, who knows what you might miss.

I would also argue that we have an unwritten contract that requires them to conduct themselves in a proper manner. Just how much are we expected to nursemaid the public.

If someone chucks up in a pub, and is then told to leave - are they wrong because they have not shown a duty of care in making sure that they got home.


So If you pick up a passenger and they all of a sudden start bleeding you would kick them out or if they had a heart attack, ffs remind me never to get into your cab if I'm ever down there and taken ill.
could i ask you if your council has a training course in place where by you have to complete first aid, disability awareness, vehicle maintenance and customer awareness, If not you should have, as your attitude is something to be desired, NOT


Skippy. You need to keep things in perspective, and you need to keep up with the post.

We are on about irresponsible passengers ( in this case with attitude ) chucking up in your place of work.

This person was ill with drink - like I made myself ill because I am a pig.

After running pubs for over 27 years I have no sympathy. Trust me when I tell you, you are talking to someone who is a caring family man, and who does not think twice over helping passengers with shopping and also passengers with access in and out of my vehicle.

I do not believe in the nanny state and people should be held more accountable for their actions, your attitude is typical of the P.C brigade, who " Look after the crim and not the victim".

You should be fighting your corner, and not saying that I am prepared to wipe someones self imposed vomit up. As I say, keep it in perspective.

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How do people get into this kind of state in the first place. We have laws that say that you can't serve alcohol to someone who is drunk yet when was the last time you ever heard of a publican or bartender getting done for this?

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grandad wrote:
How do people get into this kind of state in the first place. We have laws that say that you can't serve alcohol to someone who is drunk yet when was the last time you ever heard of a publican or bartender getting done for this?


The trouble is that they "the guys" have 4/5 cans before they go out, and " the girls " a bottle of wine or two. By the time they get to the bars they are still alright, But! a drink or two later - well it's all the publicans fault the state that they are in, Not!

Think about it, we all had them, the punter that gets into your car and they seem alright - 2 mins later and they are talking fluent gibberish, yes it is as quick as that. It is not always the fault of the last place that they leave.

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I am not saying that it the fault of the last place that they leave but pubs and clubs still serve people who are clearly intoxicated and they never get prosecuted. The pub at the bottom of my road has a customer who goes in every night and has between 10 and 13 pints. He has a slate so he pays at the end of the week. Some nights he can hardly stand up for the last couple of pints but they still serve him. Most publicans are only interested in selling the beer and are not bothered by the law because they never get done.

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skippy41 wrote:
So If you pick up a passenger and they all of a sudden start bleeding you would kick them out or if they had a heart attack, ffs remind me never to get into your cab if I'm ever down there and taken ill.
could i ask you if your council has a training course in place where by you have to complete first aid, disability awareness, vehicle maintenance and customer awareness, If not you should have, as your attitude is something to be desired, NOT
Drunkeness is not a medical condition, skippy. They choose to get p*ssed. They also choose to puke up in your cab rather than asking you to pull over. No one chooses to have a heart attack. As for bleeding? I would chuck them out if they deliberately cut themselves. Do your complete first aid, disability awareness, vehicle maintenance or customer awareness courses cover drunken f*ckwits? My licence conditions say I don't even have to pick them up.
If they cannot be responsible for their own actions, I don't see why we should be.

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grandad wrote:
How do people get into this kind of state in the first place. We have laws that say that you can't serve alcohol to someone who is drunk yet when was the last time you ever heard of a publican or bartender getting done for this?
You're spot on Grandad. Selling alcohol to someone who is clearly drunk is illegal. If the plod and licencing enforced the law it would save us all (and them!) a lot of bother in the long run.

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