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By applying for their own plates?

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IDFIMH

rent it out.
very cheaply! in a deregulated market hopefully.
value for money, based on costs.
the real question is what are you gonna do ?
you see, the reason you lot are so upset about me is becouse i represent competition that you know full well you could not compete with, and its that fact that scares you sh*tless.
dereg doesnt scare me! i welcome it. i know i can grow and expand in it
where as you know that guys like you will wither and die without the rich food that is the overpriced driver market in a regulated trade.
cant come soon enough for me
i await the abuse

No abuse. I am just wondering why you you think that you are competition when, by buying an old cab, you are actually lowering standards. Suppose that in order to compete with you, I decide to put on an even cheaper cab to lower my costs, or suppose everybody else does. Will this not reduce the standard of cabs so that the Edinburgh trade stops buying new or nearly new taxis and instead becomes the graveyard for old cabs and bangers that are near scrap?

You see competition and dereg are not the frighteners that you seem to think. Neither are drivers rich pickings for owners. That is just your perception of a trade that I doubt you fully understand.
Quality comes at a price and I believe it is only affordable in Edinburgh with vehicles being double shifted - this allows for better service 24/7 and higher standards.

please explain why bying an older cab is lowering standards(since we all have to pass the same test in order to reach the required standard).
so you believe that i am not competition iether?
nor private hire nor buses i suppose?
if you want to put on an older cab i certainly have no problem with it, indeed if they do dereg you may have little choice,my point is that i doubt they/you are capable of doing anything other than singing the dotted line for finance on a new motor, my cost are low becouse i know motors and can keep cost even lower if needs be, good luck getting rid of youre new cab if you do decide to downgrade
well youre last point almost makes you sound resonable , are you suggesting that the owner and driver should share the cost and responsibility of a cab,splitting the costs down the middle, or should the plate holder be in control and reap the rewards that come with being........ well ...nothing more than creditworthy and lucky (if you got a free plate).
depends on youre perception i suppose.
i know where i stand
be lucky

why is it that the regulated mob are so anti choice on everything ?
whats so great about control.
or is it just me that see it like that ?

Are they still working on the excuse then?

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They are only anti chice when it comes to their own self interest.
If the boot were on the other foot, how many would back skull and taylor? Even if they won't admit it.

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Come on, any vehicle that is over say 3 years old is not of the same standard as a brand new vehicle. Any vehicle even 1 year old is not in new condition. A taxi of any age can be brought up to test standard but it will never be as high a standard as a new vehicle.
You are not competition in the real sense of the word. We both charge the same fares, we both take the most practical routes (I hope!!). All you are doing is cutting overhead costs but not by as much as you believe. We cannot compete for business against each other, unless you think that vehicle quality comes into it? Does a punter prefer a new cab to an old one? Passengers refusing to get into an E7 preferring a "real taxi" not a van. Is that competition?
I think point about sharing costs is really just common sense. Most taxis in Edinburgh are double shifted and it does give a better service to the public IMHO. I still do not accept that drivers are being fleeced by owners.
The taxi trade is currently taking work from Private Hire. I believe the improved night bus service has a lot to do with our losses. Taxibuses at the airport are doomed to failure unless they drastically revise their tariffs.
The market we operate in is finite and we all would have to work longer hours to maintain earnings levels if they deregged numbers.

This is true. However, It's your council's job to set the standards. If they are not high enough, then they need to change them. If owners don't have to pay a fortune for a plate they will be more able to afford a better cab. Quality control is the way forward, not quantity.

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So what's the difference between a doubled car and two singled cars, one out during the day and one at night?



So why would people who don't even drive a taxi pay £40k for a plate to stick on a £10k motor?

Answer: because the rental is grossly inflated.

It's quite simple - stop new housebuilding and the price of the existing ones will increase because of the artificial constraint, as will rentals.

In the taxi trade officialdom refers to the scenario in terms of excess profits and scarcity value - whether it's capital or rental value makes no difference, except that it's easier to see in terms of capital value, since it's more difficult to decouple a plate rental value from the overall rental for the plate and vehicle.

However, plate-only rentals are commonplace in some areas, and the 'fleecing' aspect is thus more transparent, and I suspect there are plate-only rentals taking place in Edinburgh.



Well that would be self-defeating because you'd all be working longer hours for the same takings.

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Well perhaps you could answer the points I made rather than avoiding them, or at the very least explain the significance of your cryptic remarks above.

Or perhaps you're confusing naivety with conviction?

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Why do you have to have restricted numbers to share costs?

Many 1000s of PH vehicles are double shifted, and many 1000s of cabs in de-limited areas are double shifted.

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Really? Day shift and night shift rentals? A conservative £500 plus per week. Sat or Frid part timer £70 per week. That's around £600 per week.

That's around £2,400 per month.

I wonder what kind of vehicle you could hire from Avis for a price like that? Or how many luxury vehicles for that price.

At least you answered the question unlike Damascus moment Taylor

As for abuse - no need - in fact I don't recall ever "abusing" you as you at least kept your head down till you got your deemed grant. Though I notice now you've got it you're getting a wee bit more vocal

As for what am I going to do - same as I always do - go out do my shift and come home again - hardly rocket science

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funny i thought a standard was a standard was a standard
reach the required standard and youre vehicle passes! no?
or do you think becouse a new cab costs more it is therefore of a higher standard, i dont think so,its just more expensive.
i was told by the cab office that becouse its a new plate the taxi had to be perfect, almost as it rolled off the factory floor. it seems i passed.
its just that some cant handle that fact
or are we really entering the realms of vehichle snobbery
btw my cars older than my taxi