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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:34 pm 
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Excellent answer. :wink: I will keep this one in mind for when a certain other subject is brought up again. :D

Thankfully there are more than enough laws to enable LOs to enforce un-licensed hirings by limos and hummers.

The only issue is that most seem to be unaware they exist. :-$

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grandad wrote:
Excellent answer. :wink: I will keep this one in mind for when a certain other subject is brought up again. :D

Thankfully there are more than enough laws to enable LOs to enforce un-licensed hirings by limos and hummers.

The only issue is that most seem to be unaware they exist. :-$


Does this refer to the LO's, the operators or both. :D :D

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I am licensed with another council now and I still call myself **** Taxis, I take bookings via my mobile phone number



GMB Taxis? :D


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Taxis wrote:
Can I ask this please.

If I post all correspondence as I get it and send it to and from the LO
on here.....will I get my arse kicked or is it ok to do this.
I mean from a legal point of view

Just I would like to allow people to see how this goes.
And also how I get dealt with.

Steve


I have had no reply today !
Should I phone the LO and ask him what he is doing ?

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Should I phone the LO and ask him what he is doing ?

No, send him another e-mail copying it to his boss or his lead councillor.

In answer to the question you posed earlier re: names, I suggest you don't put any of his details on any forum.

TBH I don't really see any benefits.

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Should I phone the LO and ask him what he is doing ?

No, send him another e-mail copying it to his boss or his lead councillor.

In answer to the question you posed earlier re: names, I suggest you don't put any of his details on any forum.

TBH I don't really see any benefits.


I have not got the email addresses of his superiors yet !
I wish I did or I would mail them and ask there opinion.
I have been advised not to push the compo thing and I think the person who told me will know what the best course of action is !
( Yes he is from this site ) and I appreciate his comments and concern as I think his knowledge exceeds my own by far.
But I would like a reply to the question I asked the LO asking...

Can I ask why you needed to know answers to the above questions ?
You have already stated I do not require a private hire operator licence.

I think the answer should be " Only asking " and I have no authority to ask you this..
But we will see....

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Can I ask this please.

If I post all correspondence as I get it and send it to and from the LO
on here.....will I get my arse kicked or is it ok to do this.
I mean from a legal point of view

Just I would like to allow people to see how this goes.
And also how I get dealt with.

Steve


I have had no reply today !
Should I phone the LO and ask him what he is doing ?

Steve


Having spoken to the department this morning I can confirm that the person you contacted is busy for at least the next two days so I wouldn't be concerned at this moment in time at not receiving a response. In fact knowing this persons schedule I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't hear from them until early next week. The main thing, is that you can rest assured that the Licensing department where you reside has no jurisdiction over the way you operate whatsoever as long as you don't operate private hire vehicles.

In respect of making public any correspondence, at this moment in time you need not mention the authority or any names associated with the authority.

When you have satisfaction, it will be up to you to determine how you wish to close the book on this issue. It may be that there has been a misunderstanding and the LO just wants to clarify that your intention is to operate a hackney carriage vehicle and not a private hire vehicle.

We were recently informed of a similar situation in Darlington and it would appear that even though licensing officers in your part of the world might not like what we call cross border hiring, they have certainly accepted that they are powerless to stop it.

In short don't sit by your computer and wait for a response because one might not be forthcoming for several days.

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JD. I am under the impression that one local authority is taking another local authority to court over this, or is that just Chinese whispers.

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JD. I am under the impression that one local authority is taking another local authority to court over this, or is that just Chinese whispers.


What has been muted and I am sure you are aware because it has been highlighted on several occasions is that for some considerable time Newcastle has protested to Berwick licensing that they should somehow stop their drivers from working Newcastle. You are also no doubt aware that I informed Newcastle and the rest of the Taxi World that their sabre ratling was pointless and the only remedy at their disposal was to take the issue to court.

From my understanding the issue is not related to the one at hand but to the fact that Berwick is acting irresponsibly by not doing the job that Newcastle themselves should be doing.

The only remedy for Newcastle is to prosecute operators in Newcastle who use drivers and vehicles licensed outside of Newcastle. They won't do this because they have been told that these operators are not breaking any laws , therefore they are saying, in that case we shall take Berwick council to court instead.

Rather a strange way of admitting that those in Newcastle who operate hackney carriage vehicles licensed from outside Newcastle are operating within the law.

So lets not confuse the Newcastle issue with the issue at hand.

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I agree with you about not confusing the issue at hand , but I have read the draft of the proposed changes to rectify this situation, unfortunately I am not at liberty to post, but I think the Newcastle court case WILL play an important part.

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JD wrote:

The only remedy for Newcastle is to prosecute operators in Newcastle who use drivers and vehicles licensed outside of Newcastle. They won't do this because they have been told that these operators are not breaking any laws , therefore they are saying, in that case we shall take Berwick council to court instead.

JD
On what grounds can Newcastle take Berwick to court :-k as all Berwick are doing is issuing a licence to an applicant who passes the criteria for that hackney badge,which i am sure they are bound by law to do so :?

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I agree with you about not confusing the issue at hand , but I have read the draft of the proposed changes to rectify this situation, unfortunately I am not at liberty to post, but I think the Newcastle court case WILL play an important part.


Draft by whom?

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On what grounds can Newcastle take Berwick to court :-k as all Berwick are doing is issuing a licence to an applicant who passes the criteria for that hackney badge,which i am sure they are bound by law to do so :?


You might well ask, I'll let you know if and when it ever comes to that?

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I agree with you about not confusing the issue at hand , but I have read the draft of the proposed changes to rectify this situation
How did you get your hands on that...

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It's one of the benefits of being in a national Taxi Association and National private hire Association. :wink:

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