ians wrote:
while i have little or no time for local authorities and their decision makers we have no other choice other than the legal process we have, and while it may not be perfect its what we must work by.
your friend had the simply chance to display his clean CRB to everyone and sundry and should have put those making the decision agianst him on the back foot to prove him not fit and proper when the CRB are saying in there view he is !!
this then would have been interesting as if they had still gone against him with a clean CRB it would then ask the question what value are they if the courts rule against that evidence !!
but jasbar are you suggesting that we should get rid of the police and have no respect for law and order ?
Let's be quite clear. This guy is not my friend. I don't know him, have never met him nor is he known to anyone I know. he is an anonymous Joe in a news story posted by JD.
You sound as if we have to accept that the law and justice is etched in stone and that we have to accept it, bad though it is not.
Wrong! Because rules exist doesn't mean they should be accepted and we should strive to change them when they are wrong.
In this case they are most definitely wrong. The Magistrates were wrong. They chose to accept the word of authority, the local authority, and they slapped the scrote down by finding against him. How dare he dispute the local authorities control.
I'm sorry but when local authorities resort to these tactics then you must take the matter to the highest echelons of the justice system to get get justice. And, if that fails to bring about real justice, then the law is worthless and individuals take other measures to vent their anger.
As for the CRB, it is a red herring. Whatever is on it is irrelevant. because his licence was denied because of notes taken by police officers, not the content of the CRB. That's what the Magistrates decided on. They deemed the notes of two officers to have legal merit. This is preposterous. Their notes were never tested in court, were never corroborated in court and as such are irrelevant.
That the council used them to dig him out is little more than fascism. And the Magistrates supported this fascism.
He needs to appeal this. But he also needs to get in touch with his MP and ask him what the hell is going on in the legal system. TBH, this is such an important case the matter should be raised in Parliament, because it goes to the very roots of our democracy and the freedoms that democracy insists we have.
In your view it is wrong, but in many people's view it is acceptable, and the reason it is acceptable is because they have weighed the rights and wrongs of this type of decision before it became usable, we all know of the two young girls that were murdered brutally by a school caretaker, the advance disclosure helps to fill in the gaps in information that allowed these two particular young girls to be failed by the system, nobody says the system is perfect, the gentleman in question for his own reasons did not disclose the contents of his CRB.. this obviously created doubts in the mind of the Magistrates'. and also in my mind.
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