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I know about 140 members of the GMB, and not one of them has been asked for their views, or been asked who speaks in their name.

I also know quite a few T&G lads, and I very much doubt the lad from Liverpool has asked any of them if he speaks in their name, or has advised them what is being discussed under their union's name.

Now don't get me wrong, as I said 10 out of 10 for effort, but some people need to know that while there maybe a dozen or so around the table from the North West, there happens to be 250,000 drivers elsewhere that also have a stake.

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IDFIMH

the lad from Liverpool holds a meeting once a month, and I can assure you anything that he does goes before his members..... and you must remember there are 2 T&G reps attending one from your end as well.....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Its all about properly consulting with members BEFORE a decision is made as to what should be contained within an "proposal for implimentation".

Trade representatives usually undertake their duties free of charge ................. so if it takes some longer than others I would suggest other personal commitments, quite rightly, take preferance.

I would also say that most would "simplify" the language used ......... again something that takes time.

The fact remains though, that conducting a witch-hunt will not allow the debate on this issue to continue on here ...................... but for some winning personal battles is as, if not more important.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Is that Dusty?

I understand that, and well done to him for doing his best, but my point is there are quite a few cabs and PHVs outside of the North West.

TBH I'm not sure the lads at the meetings could do any more, and I'm most certainly not having a pop, but I think they should all bear in mind that they are all but a small section of the trade.

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IDFIMH

I found this picture of you when you were a mere lad.
So I have reduced it so you can have it for your avitar.

S8it I hope you see the funny side to this......lol



The quote would of been better if it said

Steve

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The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I agree in theory but the word members gets me a bit. !!!!!
AND BEFORE you dive on my head from a great hight let me say how I AS A DRIVER FEELS.

OK I will begin with Trevor's post.


Once again agreed...I can fully see where you are coming from.
BUT then there is me ! and maybe more like me that wants to join an organisation or association but can not find the one that either has the best representation possible or one that will actually listen and take on board the point you make as a member / Working Driver ! And bring these points up in discussion at meetings for a vote. We as drivers need regional representation that will actually aid us in our hour of need. That will be combined on a national level.
Not just some half hearted association doing Jack S*it but still takes our subscription fees.
Every one seems to be trying to out whit and be "cleverer " than the previous poster but "tell us directly and honestly what organisation / association to join" that will benefit us in the areas we work.".

But for now...I really believe just because I am NOT in a "group" that I should not be secluded from knowing what is been proposed, I think all proposals should be published publicly so ""that every driver has the chance to see what could be just round the corner for him / her."
More to the point what decisions are been made that could effect them directly or in-directly that will alter there way of life in any way.

Maybe JD was right in saying "Perhaps its time for taxi drivers of all persuasions to start an organisation of their own, I suggest we call it the "National Taxi drivers association" and perhaps then we can advise the DfT what we want and not leave it to those who's interests are incompatible with our own."

And this post is NOT in any way to create argument.
It is simply a point raised by a mere DRIVER...

Regards Steve

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The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

Taxi, you will find that a owner driver has a different point of view from that of a person that just hires a taxi from somebody, you will also find that a person with a number of taxis that he hires out also has a different point of view, the owner of a radio company views things differently as well,

There is no one fix solution and you have to find the Association or union that suits you best, or start your own,

One thing I can assure you of, you will always find the members lazy, unwilling to put their hands in their pocket to pay for what is needed. and though they are not prepared to do anything themselves will always want to know why you did not do it for them. for that is the nature of the Taxi beast.

You should know by now that the Taxi Driver is his own worst enemy.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I wonder what would happen if everyone sang from the same hymn sheet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUeHGDcAfS0

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=z07K29Fc15U

Steve ................... it must be made clear that the word proposed must be forllowed by the words for discussion.

This was an agenda item from the last meeting of minds. It is not the conclusion of consultation, its not what the meeting of minds members decided to seek implimentation of.

No doubt we will speak more on Tuesday.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Taxi, I have always said that being a taxi-driver/ or owner is not a job, it becomes a way of life I often used to spend an hour or so at the end of a shift in a cafe or Office winding down after a hard night's work, people not turning up, drunks wanting to fight, the clever ar&e wanting to get out of paying you, we used to give each other some terrible stick, you would have thought we hated each other, but we did not , it was just a way of letting off steam, keeping sane..... I'm sure that TDO has become another steam valve for some.

The true Taxi Driver or limousine owner would just laugh off the insults and wait to win the next one. if you find the perfect Association / Union please do tell.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Trevor your right on both accounts without doubt.
But I love a bit niggle myself you know......



I knew I could get you to bite.....

Yea I will see you on Tuesday mate..
We are 100% meeting up on Tuesday arnt we ? Just I remember you saying last thursday that we might not be meeting again until this Thursday.
OH....and I have something for you .....
Thought you would of had the avitar mind....

Regards Steve

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The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

I am going to convert that song into a ring tone
I ain't herd that for years...Once it gets in your head you sing the bugger all day....

Steve

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The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.

Interesting debate and a congenial name, “meeting of minds”.

The reps from every trade organisation that I’ve been associated with have always got their mandate from their members. It seems unorthodox for a trade organisation to enter into discussions on a subject or matters of which they have no mandate and then submit proposals of these discussions to their members in the hope that the members might agree to change something that they didn’t want changing in the first place.

Something that stands out like a sore thumb and should raise some concern is why are trade representatives involved in discussions with a body whose sole aim it would appear is to regulate the way taxi drivers work? Have licensing officers ever had the best interest of Taxi drivers at heart?

Couldn’t and shouldn’t these trade bodies have formed their own collective forum excluding enforcement officers?

It is a very interesting discussion as one reader said but it would seem that apart from a handful of people looking to find a few answers no one has yet given any reasons why these proposals should have got off the ground and why they need to be discussed?

What makes it even more confusing is that someone said “non contentious issues” were outlawed, yet apparently it would seem that this is one such contentious issue that has been given the all clear for discussion. It was also said that the issue was proposed and discussed at the first meeting does that mean the issue wasn’t originally classed as contentious?

From the document that has appeared on this website it appears to me that those responsible for making these proposals were of the opinion that this particular issue was far from being viewed as contentious. The document produced is not about discussion of a future proposal, it contains the actual amendments to legislation. I don’t believe anyone would go as far as to produce a document that altered legislation if they weren’t given some kind of approval by other members of this forum.

I get the impression that you people looking for answers to the questions you seek should ask those who were involved in the discussion process and you people involved in the discussion process instead of playing games should come clean and be straight with those seeking answers, otherwise it might just look as though you really do have something to hide?

Will