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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:26 pm 
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The Taxi Forums UK was the orignal UK taxi forum website.

Alas none of the posts, but a few memories. :D

Go to http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and type in thetaxiforums.co.uk

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GA wrote:
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What ever you do, don't type in www.taxiandprivatehire.co.uk :lol: :lol:

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Hey thats not fair.

B851ARD

I wanted that for my car ............ but its not for sale.

B. Lucky :D

ahhhhhh hang on

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Sussex wrote:
I would say the other taxi forum was the first UK wide one.

Very simple and fully open to abuse. :roll:

I wish it was still going. :sad:

Made my day, I've found it's archives as well. \:D/

Not all the posts some just the headings, and funny enough loads of posts about 203020. :lol: :lol:

Also I see a post from a certain Dusty Bin about the taxman. :roll: :roll:

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and taxiforum.com

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That link is shocking Sussex...lol
I have just seen the forgotten past, "sites I have had in my time."
I honestly forgot the fun you can have on archive.org.

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Dusty ........... The Taxi Forums UK was the orignal UK taxi forum website.


Yes, I would agree that it was the first of its genre and inspired us. However, TDO would have happened anyway. :wink:

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Its intention was to help people find information, share information so that people could then use that information to uncover unfair local legislation for the individuals and then use that knowledge to the betterment of the trade Nationally.


Fine, but that's in essence the rationale of TDO as well.

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As the North East Rep for TTFUK I was open about my identity .......... as were all the other reps.


Fine, but you were trying to denegrate TDO on the basis that it was undemocratic, but your point was irrelevant because unlike TTFUK there's never been any attempt to turn TDO into an RO, and also seemed hypocritical because the reps were self-appointed rather than elected.

I don't really have a problem with that, because TTFUK wasn't a conventional RO, and your intentions were laudable, but on the other hand if you accuse TDO of being a dictatorship or whatever then I have to point these things out in response.

And I can't really see the relevance of anonymity to all that, unless you're more worried about the man rather than the arguments, opinions and principles.

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I know who Sussex is ............ I've met him .............. I talk to him regularly ............ I ask his advise as he is a very knowledgeable person ............ you of course will have noticed that although the banter between us has continued neither of us are as disrespectful to each other as once we were ................ and you will have noticed that at no time I refer to him as anything other than his username. I think, or I hope that there is now mutual respect there.


Well I daresay we could meet face to face and the nature of our relationship would change without you knowing my real identity; your point is in essence about the difference between communication on the internet as compared to a face-to-face conversation rather than about anonymity per se.

And it should be self-evident that people posting anonymously on here are more than capable of having a civilised debate, and by the same token people who have met face to face can have a good old ruck.

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Now tell me .................. when his identity was not known to me (or anyone else) was our relationship at all constructive.


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The fact is that TTFUK was not representative organisation either ................ however it was intended to become one should the membership dictate.

To be honest it was more likely to become a sort of "pressure group" where schemes such as "Safe and Sound" could be promoted.

I would say a persons opinion is more imprtant than knowing who that person is ................ but when we start talking about off-line activity regarding the site surely all contributing members should be entitled to know who is taking their views forward.

I find it strange that certain people demanded to know who attended "the meeting of minds" and who gave them a mandate to discuss the trade ................. is it not the case that all I have ever asked of this site is that they do the same.

Of course this is only my opinion ................... I'm not suggesting that by not revealing who we all are the site would suffer, far from it ................. but I do think that with the knowledge, experience and willingness to effect positive change for the trade, more could be achieved if all of these qualities were expanded, and prominant members worked together to effect that poitive change.

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Now tell me .................. when his identity was not known to me (or anyone else) was our relationship at all constructive.

B. Lucky :D


Captain Cab used to humour me when we were two unknown posters, then we met, now he just takes the pizz full stop!

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Perhaps we should arrange a Christmas bash, where everyone can turn up in 'lone ranger' masks and namebadges?

Be interesting to see how many badges some turn up with? :lol:

Terry could do the 'Grease' turn.


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In my opinion using the word representative in such instances indicates or suggests that the person contacting the local authorities is speaking on behalf of the members or subscribers, and are taking forward the views or proposals of that group.


I'm intrigued at your interpretation of the word "representative"? No one associated with TDO has ever stated, inferred or implied that they represent any person or persons who post on the TDO forum.

Apart from yourself, it would appear that every other poster is fully aware of the way TDO operates and that the opinions and views of those who run and adminisiter TDO are personal to them. The TDO principle of equality is the overriding factor that cements the views of those who administer it. No subscriber has ever been burdened with the task of administration nor have they ever been asked to perform any duty that might lead them to believe that they are anything other than a free subscriber to the forum.

Occasions where TDO might have cause to use words similar to representative are when it is being asked to comment or supply information to those who require it, or when TDO itself requests information? However, under those circumstances depending on the format of the information TDO might sign the response as "admin", at other times it might use the term, "on behalf of Taxi driver Online"? However at no time has TDO ever said and nor will it ever say, "on behalf of Taxi Driver online and its forum subscribers".

Forum subscribers are not party to the running or administration of TDO even though many may agree with the administrative stance it takes on certain issues. The point that you in particular need to take on board is that this website is multifunctional and offers more than just a place to submit views and opinions. The editorial side of TDO operates under the same format as any other magazine and is designed to keep everyone without exception informed of current events. TDO will at times have cause to investigate items of news that it deems important but perhaps unpalatable to some but nevertheless that will not deter it from carrying out such investigations and reporting the facts or any injustice that might accompany those facts?

The TDO library archive of case law and comment is designed to help and assist those who wish to advance their knowledge of taxi licensing rather then rely solely on the limited knowledge of many of those who put themselves forward as representatives of taxi organsiations.

The website itself is far removed from anything that has gone before and quit frankly TDO has its own inimitable style in the way it operates. This site does not model itself on any other forum or website, TDO has created its own individual style, which others have saw fit yo copy or mimic without success.

I don't know what your beef is with the way this site operates but if you don't like it then you have the remedy at your fingertips to rectify the situation but just for your information TDO doesn't represent the Taxi trade and at no time has it ever said it did.

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Alas none of the posts, but a few memories. :D

Go to http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and type in thetaxiforums.co.uk

One thing I did notice was an online taxi/PH insurance quote service.

Just think that five years down the line some 'Johnny come latelys' are trying to mug the taxi/PH trade with a new supa dupa online taxi/PH insurance quote service. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I must say that I have read some crap in my time .................. but JD's latest attempt to justify HIM phoning local authorities and then claiming that he doesn't state he is from TDO, or that he is a news editor from TDO is just to much to comprehend.

Taxi drivers accross the country struggle to be listened to by their local authorities because they are an individual and therefore NOT REPRESENTATIVE of the local, regional or national trade.

Perhaps JD would care to inform us how he introduces himself when he talks to local authorities ...................

I must also add that I believe JD to be one of the UK's most informed people working in the trade today ...................... but his knowledge is of little good to the general trade if the current "cloak and dagger" approach he adopts is continued.

Letting the members of this site know of the inacuracies of the law is of great benefit .................... but TDO has minimal membership and the advice is passed onto to few.

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I must say that I have read some crap in my time but JD's latest attempt to justify HIM phoning local authorities


Do I need a justification to phone anyone I please and if so why and from whom? Obviously you think I need justification from you, and if not you, then who?

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and then claiming that he doesn't state he is from TDO, or that he is a news editor from TDO is just to much to comprehend.


I suppose if I had the need to contact any individual including the likes of licensing officers, councillors, civil servants, Ministers or whatever, how I introduced myself would depend on the nature of the call? Do you have a problem with that?

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Perhaps JD would care to inform us how he introduces himself when he talks to local authorities.


lol Are you looking for hints and tips on PR?

You should read the above but on a serious note, the nature of the call would determine how I approached any given situation but if I was following up a news story I wouldn't go out of my way to even mention who I was, on the other hand if the inquiry concerned a third party and the third party had asked me to obtain certain information as to a licensing matter then I may introduce myself as John Davies and I may even say "John Davies of Taxi Driver online" but those occurrences are few and far between, do you have a problem with that? Perhaps you have a hankering to say you are Gateshead Angel of Taxi driver online?

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I must also add that I believe JD to be one of the UK's most informed people working in the trade today


I must admit that is very kind of you

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but his knowledge is of little good to the general trade if the current "cloak and dagger" approach he adopts is continued.


I have to say that I have a private life, which I value quite highly and I have no desire to be a part of a 21st century taxi trade renaissance. That job is best left to those who have enough youth and exuberism on their side to effect change for the good of all and not just the few. In other words there are plenty of people out there who can just as easily effect change and fight the good fight on behalf of the Taxi driver as we on TDO have done for the last four years.

My main concern at this moment in time is fighting injustices by licensing authorities that impact on cab drivers and trying to apply the equality of the law as it is meant to be?

I don't really care what people make of me helping others as long as those I help can derive a little benefit from my input and the input of TDO.

You talk about other websites but as far as I’m concerned other websites both past and present are a non entity and couldn't even come close to what this website has achieved or will achieve in the future. Where we lead others follow and that’s just the way I like it.

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I have no hankering to represent any group .............. or claim that I do ............ I shall leave that king of activity to you.

I'm a bit concerned that, on the few and far between occasions, you admit to stating you are from TDO ........... particularly because on those occasions you are representing someones personal concerns upon their request, using TDO as a credibility tool.

Helping people is providing information and advice ................... representing people is making points for other individuals .................... I think it is now clear that through your own postings you have proved that on occasions you have represented people and in the course of that representation have implied that your involvement is because of a position you hold within this website.

I think you need to look up the word ACCOUNTABILITY ................. because every other person wishing to effect positive change is accountable to those who place them in that position.

I think that your "ideals" to protect the cab driver from injustices of local authorities is worthy of credit ....................... but I doubt that the public in certain areas will be so willing to praise.

B. Lucky :D

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