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Over hanging ranks is commonplace throughout the UK, especially popular ranks. I doubt there is a licensed area in the country that doesn't have a rank over-hang at one stage or another? Would I be right in saying the Taxi rank was established long before the Private hire company took over the car park? In which case the practice of over ranking was commonplace before this situation arose?

You are of course right about it being a breach of licensing conditions but the Dundee conditions and bylaws will tell you exactly what the position is in that respect but no matter what the conditions might say, any road traffic prohibitions or parking restrictions will always come into play.

Regards

JD

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The exit from the compound has been approved by both the council and police.

The owner Bruce Linton who also owns 505050 taxis has got away with doing this but these mugs still protest about 203020 and then hand him his £75........strange people in the taxi trade!!!!!

maybe all the 505050 ops should threaten to hand their radios in unless bruce stops helping 203020,maybe even a 505050 only strike on a saturday night,if all the other cabbies put say £20 each we could give them their saturday nights wages and only lose £20,it will cost us a lot more if we go on an allout strike,without the fat sams connection 203020 would have no reason to use the compound,maybe at the next cabbie meeting they could invite bruce to let him see the trouble he has caused

So what exactly is the background to this entrance? Was the entrance there before the private hire company took over the car park or was it purpose built? Was there another way into the car park before this entrance was made and is there one now?

Regards

JD

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Is the hack rank on an A road or B road, if its an A they have no right to cross the public foot path, unless there is a dedicated entrance built with the proper curbing and to the correct dimensions for a side entrance exit
Do they have to drive over a public foot path?????????

This is the photo posted in the "Ashamed to be an operator thread".

Fat Sams is the brown coloured building behind the enclosure, just behind the maroon 4X4 in the enclosure.

There's a gate about where the 4x4 is sitting, and the public have to cross the public highway from Fat Sams to get into the enclosure where the PH cars are sitting.

The road is quite narrow, and seems to be closed off these days, maybe because there's a lot of smokers standing outside the club with the ban.

The PH seem to sit down near where the gate is, but they seem to enter and exit via the entrance at this side - the exit is just to the far left of the picture, and can only be partly seen. I think there's a little car park to the left of this, and probably a dropped pavement or proper road into it, as with the third gate in the middle of the picture, which is kept closed, I think, but you can see the dropped pavement clearly in the photo.

You can just see the yellow dashed lines in front of the pavement where the taxi rank is, but the taxis snake back onto the inner ring road, maybe 10-20 cars while the rank proper only holds about four. This has been going on for as long as I've been on the taxis (more than ten years), but I'm sure there wasn't an official rank at all there originally, but the taxis queued up and no one seemed bothered. I don't know how long the rank has been there.

So the PH cars are coming in and out through the taxi queue, but I've only ever seen them coming and going at busy times, so there haven't been any taxis queuing at that time.

The enclosure used to be a used car lot, so wasn't used at night, so wasn't relevant to the taxis.

I'm sure some of the Dundee drivers can clarify the details, but I think that's about it.

the burgundy coloured gate to the left is the ph,s entrance/exit,the ph,s now sit in here during the day when fat sams is not open

bruce linton owns fat sams building and has a small share in fat sams night club he has no control over day to day running of the night club the same goes for 505050 he owns the office building has a share in the company but has nothing to do with day to day running of it he also wants out of the taxi game as shares are being sold the company is in some debt some £250.000 hes been doing business with davy young and the marrs in past months he bought the marquee for 1.3 million from davy young and bought 203020s office building off of peter marr

Doblo your info is way out but it's just typical of the Dundee Taxi Trade, Davy Young's pub/marquee has been purchased by an Edinburgh Property company who are about to build luxury apartments (Youngy had the good sense to knock back every offer untill he got what he wanted a cool million and a half plus a £750,000 penthouse )

Peter Marr's building where 203020 are situated was sold not to Bruce Linton but to a company called Westport Holdings who paid old Pedro £1.27 million.

Finally the big thing you have missed was the offer from Scotland's largest PH company GPH they offered £2.1 million for 203020 but DY refused he tells me that they will sell probably next year and if it happens that will be the end of the Hackney trade in Dundee you only have to look at what GPH have done to the trade in Glasgow so what I say is it's better the devil you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dundeedoblo you said bruce was buying 203020(shamed to be an operator page 3)the staff at 505050 think bruce is the owner

Dundee wav your correct Bruce Linton is still the owner at 505050 but I am led to believe that's about to change with a buy out from 10 operators who are paying in the region of £30.000 each.

The question I have to ask is why would any sane person commit to such a huge financial risk for a company that has lost money every year since it's inception or the other question you can ask is why does a successfull business man ( Linton) want to sell a company that other people see as a good investment (bearing in mind these buyers have no business experience at all)

To conclude Linton is selling a loss making business which no other business person in Dundee wants to buy except a few misguided cabbies who seem to think they are on to the next Gold Mine ( Shaft )

I look forward to how it will all pan out ( if you'll excuse the pun )

i dont understand how 505050 could be running at a loss,they have over a 100 taxis paying £75 each, they dont own any plates so all the running costs are staff wages/building rent/rates/radio costs

I would guess buying a loss making firm is going to be a lot cheaper than buying a highly profitable one.

If, and it's a big if, they can turn it around, then £300,000 is a very good price. Get an extra 20 cars on the circuit, and that will be paid for in four years.

I've always had the opinion that a taxi number is more important than many think, and 505050 is a very good one indeed.

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Was at Fat Sams last night, and I noticed that because the road wasn't blocked off the taxis were ranking between the club and the PH enclosure (ie behind the maroon 4x4), so people would have to walk through the taxi rank to get to the PHs, which can't be good for them?

Is the road only blocked off on Fridays and Saturdays?