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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:02 pm 
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The Drivers should ask the council to be paid to attend. Its all part of the working day.. The council will state it does not want drivers to work when tierd,so you could not do the coarse and then go to work..



I wounder what the local employment office will say to the council when 100 taxi drivers apply for bennifit and council rebates on there council tax etc..


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Having spoken to Bournemouth taxi licensing, I can confirm that these licenses were suspended because the gentlemen concerned were deemed not to be "fit and proper" persons for the reason that they didn't take the course.

I informed the LO that it was my experience that those given the task of conducting these courses are themselves in many cases less competent than those mandated to take the course.

He said he didn't know the competence level of those delivering the course but he said in some cases that could be true.

I think Bournemouth council have brought a hole new meaning to the words "fit and proper".

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JD wrote:
Having spoken to Bournemouth taxi licensing, I can confirm that these licenses were suspended because the gentlemen concerned were deemed not to be "fit and proper" persons for the reason that they didn't take the course.

I informed the LO that it was my experience that those given the task of conducting these courses are themselves in many cases less competent than those mandated to take the course.

He said he didn't know the competence level of those delivering the course but he said in some cases that could be true.

I think Bournemouth council have brought a hole new meaning to the words "fit and proper".

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JD, Did you point out that there actions where illegal, and that all a driver has to do is lodge an appeal and carry on working


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JD, Did you point out that there actions where illegal, and that all a driver has to do is lodge an appeal and carry on working


I expressed the opinion that the applicants would probably win their appeal.

In hearing an appeal, the Magistrates have to make up their own mind as to whether or not the appellants are fit and proper? In this particular case councils are not asking for information as to the fitness of a driver, they are making it a condition of license that a driver must take a so called BTEC course in transporting passengers in order to renew a license.

If the council were going to refuse these licenses they should have done it at the time of renewal. However just because an applicant hasn't got a so called BTEC in transporting passengers it does not mean that a council can close its eyes all such applications.

If Kaye had gone to the court of appeal we probably wouldn't be in this situation today.

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JD wrote:
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JD, Did you point out that there actions where illegal, and that all a driver has to do is lodge an appeal and carry on working


I expressed the opinion that the applicants would probably win their appeal.

In hearing an appeal, the Magistrates have to make up their own mind as to whether or not the appellants are fit and proper? In this particular case councils are not asking for information as to the fitness of a driver, they are making it a condition of license that a driver must take a so called BTEC course in transporting passengers in order to renew a license.

If the council were going to refuse these licenses they should have done it at the time of renewal. However just because an applicant hasn't got a so called BTEC in transporting passengers it does not mean that a council can close its eyes all such applications.

If Kaye had gone to the court of appeal we probably wouldn't be in this situation today.

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So all they have to do is lodge an appeal with the council, then the court and keep on working


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Yaki-da

No doubt one of our welsh colleagues will correct me on the pronunciation?

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Di-yawn (well done)JD you have started your Welsh lessons by wishing everyone good health yakida very soon you will sharag cymrig dipinbach
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So all they have to do is lodge an appeal with the council, then the court and keep on working

Up until last year yes, but things have changed a tad since.

Now a sensible council wouldn't object if an appeal was lodged, but sensible councils don't act in the way this one has. :sad:

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Sussex wrote:
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So all they have to do is lodge an appeal with the council, then the court and keep on working

Up until last year yes, but things have changed a tad since.

Now a sensible council wouldn't object if an appeal was lodged, but sensible councils don't act in the way this one has. :sad:


So whats changed to stop them lodging an appeal :?:


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So whats changed to stop them lodging an appeal :?:

Nothing, but a section of the 2006 Safety Bill means a council can require them not to work until the hearing. :sad:

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It seems that Bournemouth Council have a big fan in support of this policy, i.e. the National Private Hire Association. :sad:

http://www.phtm.co.uk/?inc_id=5

Pages 12, 13 and 18.

I wonder how many members of the NPHA were consulted on this anti-driver policy?

Or are the NPHA the English version of Zanu-PF. :sad:

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Sussex wrote:
It seems that Bournemouth Council have a big fan in support of this policy, i.e. the National Private Hire Association. :sad:

http://www.phtm.co.uk/?inc_id=5

Pages 12, 13 and 18.

I wonder how many members of the NPHA were consulted on this anti-driver policy?

Or are the NPHA the English version of Zanu-PF. :sad:


Is there a difference between the NPHA course and the GMBPDB demand for training?

Only in the fact the GMBPDB seem to think the fairy god mother will come along and do it all for zero, and of course the NPHA have an accredited scheme already.

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Is there a difference between the NPHA course and the GMBPDB demand for training?

I don't know, but I haven't seen any proposals from the GMBPDB for mandatory un-paid drivers training. :?

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Is there a difference between the NPHA course and the GMBPDB demand for training?

I don't know, but I haven't seen any proposals from the GMBPDB for mandatory un-paid drivers training. :?


Be careful what you wish for.....nobody gets anything for nothing.

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Sussex wrote:
It seems that Bournemouth Council have a big fan in support of this policy, i.e. the National Private Hire Association. :sad:

http://www.phtm.co.uk/?inc_id=5

Pages 12, 13 and 18.

I wonder how many members of the NPHA were consulted on this anti-driver policy?

Or are the NPHA the English version of Zanu-PF. :sad:


I can confirm that the firm that I work for are a member of the NPHA, in the past 10 months we have been consulted on zero occasions.

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Be careful what you wish for.....nobody gets anything for nothing.

In the last few years 1000s of drivers have got free hackney carriage plates. :D

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