Charging for wheelchairs and private hire.

Brummie Cabbie · **Posted:** Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:55 pm

wee eddie wrote:

BC, that was my reading of the Rules, as I read them.

I do think that it is somewhat unfair on those of us that drive WAVs, but then all our local Hackneys are required to be WAV Adapted.

I just think it's unfair to expect people, in any job, to work for nowt.

wannabeeahack · **Posted:** Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:18 pm

blackpool wrote:

I dont want to drive one thanks .But your missing the point why should a abled bodied person get charged less than someone in a wheelchair ?I have a wav and im quite happy to load a wheelchair or wait whilst someone gets in be them elderly or on crutches.What would happen if i said hold on a minute need to charge you more ?

time is money, but how many wheelchair jobs does the average WAV hack do after having to spend £25K+? the other way of looking at is that maybe the able-bodied passengers are subsidising the extra cost of a wheelchair job, and given that someone in a wheelchair could be getting several benefits INCLUDING mobility, why shouldnt the wheelchair user pay the extra?..........

toots · **Posted:** Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:23 am

blackpool wrote:

I dont want to drive one thanks .But your missing the point why should a abled bodied person get charged less than someone in a wheelchair ?I have a wav and im quite happy to load a wheelchair or wait whilst someone gets in be them elderly or on crutches.What would happen if i said hold on a minute need to charge you more ?

I wasn't missing the point at all. I too don't charge people because they are slow to get into my vehicle. You asked how ph can do this and it's quite simply because they are a private company that charge on time and distance, similar way to hc do with thier meters. I don't charge people if I get caught up in a bit of traffic but the meter in the hc will still be ticking over. You don't hear the disabled lobbying for fair rates and equalities when faced with something like this

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blackpool · **Joined:** Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:37 pm **Posts:** 2406

I never mentioned how ph can do this,im saying its strange to charge more to me if your disabled wether it takes a bit longer or not.At the end of the day if i was that bothered i wouldnt do the job :wink:

toots · **Posted:** Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:38 pm

blackpool wrote:

I never mentioned how ph can do this,im saying its strange to charge more to me if your disabled wether it takes a bit longer or not.At the end of the day if i was that bothered i wouldnt do the job :wink:

blackpool wrote:

why should you be able to discriminate

You clearly did mention it, albeit you now say 'how' rather than 'why' :wink:

sasha · **Joined:** Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:35 pm **Posts:** 1855

The meter should go on at the commencement of hiring, which technically for PH is when you are given the job or for HC once you've accepted a fare. Once a customer has ordered a cab you have been 'hired' by them so in theory you could put the meter on straight away. However I believe this is the reason we have flag-drops, to cover the time and fuel in getting to the passenger and loading, or in the case of Hacks just for loading.

blackpool · **Joined:** Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:37 pm **Posts:** 2406

In theory but the meter goes on when commencing the journey.People often say im just finishing my fag ect ect.its whatever you find a reasonable amount of time.Personally putting a wheelchair in my cab i start the meter when i set off not when loading.Same for someone loading there shopping

wannabeeahack · **Posted:** Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:30 pm

blackpool wrote:

In theory but the meter goes on when commencing the journey.People often say im just finishing my fag ect ect.its whatever you find a reasonable amount of time.Personally putting a wheelchair in my cab i start the meter when i set off not when loading.Same for someone loading there shopping

yes but hack meters charge more than most PH do anyway so your already charging more than the PH WAV, albeit to all your passengers

i.e. if the flag is £5 and its £2 a mile, 5 miles = £15

5 miles in a PH would be maybe £10.....

(figures for example only)

in fact i only charge £1 per mile in the day

2 Jobs · **Posted:** Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:17 pm

The firm I drive for have the same meters and tariffs in both HC's & PH's. This seems to be the same for all firms in the town. The published council tariff chart permits a .60p extra charge for all pre arranged bookings on tariff 1 and .75p tariff 2. More than once I've had a 5 mile journey for a datahead job allocated where the meter fare was less than £4. At least HC's and PH's seem to be treated fairly here.

blackpool · **Joined:** Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:37 pm **Posts:** 2406

The fares are the same for ph/hc here ph work on the meter for the same.There is a few scrotes that discount though :wink:

blackpool · **Joined:** Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:37 pm **Posts:** 2406

The fares are the same for ph/hc here ph work on the meter for the same.There is a few scrotes that discount though :wink:

wannabeeahack · **Posted:** Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:21 pm

you could argue that LAs who force 100% wavs for hack plates have pushed up all fares, its thier fault such expensive vehicles are required, unless they also allow pre-thatcher built cars......

captain cab · **Posted:** Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:03 pm

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16274&highlight=peterborough

grandad · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm **Posts:** 20075

I asked our licensing officer this very question when a local company were charging £18.00 to take a wheelchair passenger across town, a distance of less than 2 miles. The answer was that they can charge only the same as they would charge an able bodied passenger for the same journey.

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:48 pm

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... 055#216055

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