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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:11 am 
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Ditching cap on taxi numbers not fare for the city

HOW convenient for Halcrow to do the study of demand of taxis in December (Fresh move to ditch cap on taxi numbers, News, March 5). Does Halcrow take into consideration private hire?

The de-restriction of the taxi trade would be a massive mistake not only for the taxi trade but the whole public transport infrastructure. We don't want to undercut or compete with buses or trams, but we will have to just to make a living.

There would also be a massive decrease in investment in new taxis, and a massive decrease in an already dwindling turnover of incomes.

De-restriction would lead to the opening of the trade to criminals or mass gathering of plates by private investors who would put plates in driver names.

They would then buy older taxis which would ultimately lead to flooding the market with taxis.

Low demand massively outweighs high demand as we are seeing just now. There would not be 30, 40 or 50 applications, there would be hundreds of applications.

De-restriction of taxis would be a disaster and the solution is to use Tariff 4 of the table of fares at times of high demand. This would increase the number of taxis working at times of high demand.

By doing this, the council could justify a rise in test fees and driver fees to sustain the cab office.

Dougie Brown, East Lothian


CEC must lift the cap. They have no choice.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Dougie. :-({|=



:wink: Don't worry lads and lassies. Halcrow's report was for December and it goes without saying that in towns and cities across the country there is always an extra demand for taxis.

Wait till figures are published fro January and February.

My source in the council informs me that the council will only act if over a period of say six months there is a substatial increase in demand for taxis.
Even then last year the council voted to keep the numbers the same and will continue to keep it this for a long time :D


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:wink: Don't worry lads and lassies. Halcrow's report was for December and it goes without saying that in towns and cities across the country there is always an extra demand for taxis.

Wait till figures are published fro January and February.

My source in the council informs me that the council will only act if over a period of say six months there is a substatial increase in demand for taxis.
Even then last year the council voted to keep the numbers the same and will continue to keep it this for a long time :D


Since when did CEC conduct an SUD survey every month?

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:wink: Don't worry lads and lassies. Halcrow's report was for December and it goes without saying that in towns and cities across the country there is always an extra demand for taxis.

Doesn't matter.

The law is quite explicit, if there is taxi SUD then the council shouldn't refuse an application. Pretty certain they had outstanding applications in December, therefore they are acting outside of the law.

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My source in the council informs me that the council will only act if over a period of say six months there is a substatial increase in demand for taxis.

The council can and do what they want, but will the courts let them? :?

IMO the 'Walls of Jericho' scenario is well advanced, and the council are realising they have to do something. Only time will tell what that something is.

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its not over until the fat lady sings boys and my info tells me she is to sing BIG TIME :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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The council has just broken the Law.

CGSA states quite clearly that a licence may be refused, "... if, and only if, there is a significant demand for taxi services in the area which is unmet".

When Gordon Macdonald's licence was being considered, a demand was established. The council had a statutory duty to grant the licence.

The council will claim it has not broken the Law because it has not refused it, just deferred its decision.

But Gordon's licence must be granted. End of.

The curious thing for us is that the council did not need to present the report for December. Why did it?

It could have claimed the figures were not available. Why didn't it?

It already had other information which they could have used. After all, any Sheriff would grant a period of currency to any demand information. Certainly 3 months would be deemed reasonable, so the November report could have been considered current and therefore relevant.

However, Gordon pointed to his own information which demonstrated a demand.

Anyway, we all know that councillors make it up as they go along. In handling taxi affairs they have been devious, abusive of the terms and spirit of the Law and are clearly working to a political agenda based on preserving its own autocratic control and the vested interest of the trade and iuts representatives that it allows to represent their case before them.

We know full well that surveys are framed to deliver the results the council wants. There is no openness nor political honesty in the process.

This is NOT democracy in action. It is fascist control and fascist government.

I'll be happy to say this to their face whenever they have the need to bring me before them.

Perhaps the Press should be in attendance so that the public interest can be served by publicising the despicable and contemptible way these politicians behave.

Finally, closing down my email, and I could easily circumvent this, is an act of denial of free speech.

Councillors may not like what I say, nor the manner in which I say it, but they are duty bound to hear it. That's what they are elected for.

That they have denied my right to free speech, to express my opinion about how they conduct themselves, denigrates the free society we think we live in and should be a major concern to all.


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My source in the council informs me that the council will only act if over a period of say six months there is a substatial increase in demand for taxis.

The council can and do what they want, but will the courts let them? :?

IMO the 'Walls of Jericho' scenario is well advanced, and the council are realising they have to do something. Only time will tell what that something is.


My source says that the next Halcrow will report back in six months and will include the figures for January and February.

Those who don't want more plates on will be praying that it says no unmet demand.

Those that want more plates will be praying that the report says that there is an unmet demand

My sourse also informs me that November's report stated that there was no unmet demand, so it's 1-1 :shock:

I'm informed that if the report for a substantial period, say six months, show that there is a demand then the council will find it difficult to not put more plates on but my informant states that deregulation is out of the question :-|


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Council insider wrote:
My source in the council informs me that the council will only act if over a period of say six months there is a substatial increase in demand for taxis.

The council can and do what they want, but will the courts let them? :?

IMO the 'Walls of Jericho' scenario is well advanced, and the council are realising they have to do something. Only time will tell what that something is.


My source says that the next Halcrow will report back in six months and will include the figures for January and February.

Those who don't want more plates on will be praying that it says no unmet demand.

Those that want more plates will be praying that the report says that there is an unmet demand

My sourse also informs me that November's report stated that there was no unmet demand, so it's 1-1 :shock:

I'm informed that if the report for a substantial period, say six months, show that there is a demand then the council will find it difficult to not put more plates on but my informant states that deregulation is out of the question :-|


Christ, you don't even know the difference between Deregulation and De-restriction :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: cooncil fanny mare like . . . . :lol:

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Listen son, a "significant unmet demand" and "no significant unmet demand" is not and never will be concomitant - the cap is off, so long as a "significant demand" exists. :lol:

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Is this a trend starting to develop?


http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10939


http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10916

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