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A license may be held by a corporate entity, but control of the said license is, in fact, transferred from one individual to another. It might not be illegal, but in reality, City Cabs are trading in the transfer of a public license. The company is simply used as a vehicle to complete the transfer.

I don't believe it was ever the intentions of Parliament to have public licenses sold as commodities on the Black Market.

Now wouldn't you agree Swannee?

Proof of the Black Market
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http://www.edinburghplates.co.uk/for_sale.php

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Skull wrote:
A license may be held by a corporate entity, but control of the said license is, in fact, transferred from one individual to another. It might not be illegal, but in reality, City Cabs are trading in the transfer of a public license. The company is simply used as a vehicle to complete the transfer.

I don't believe it was ever the intentions of Parliament to have public licenses sold as commodities on the Black Market.

Now wouldn't you agree Swannee?

Proof of the Black Market
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http://www.edinburghplates.co.uk/for_sale.php
It is purely financial.... to suggest that selling a licence is operating in a black market situation...

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MR T wrote:
Skull wrote:
A license may be held by a corporate entity, but control of the said license is, in fact, transferred from one individual to another. It might not be illegal, but in reality, City Cabs are trading in the transfer of a public license. The company is simply used as a vehicle to complete the transfer.

I don't believe it was ever the intentions of Parliament to have public licenses sold as commodities on the Black Market.

Now wouldn't you agree Swannee?

Proof of the Black Market
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http://www.edinburghplates.co.uk/for_sale.php
It is purely financial.... to suggest that selling a licence is operating in a black market situation...


It stands to reason, if I pay 50K, to become the director and day-to-day manager of a taxi. The control of the license to operate, is transferred from one person to another. It might all come about within a corporate entity which holds the plate, but it's a transfer, nevertheless.

If no transfer takes place, as claimed, why incorporate the license in the first place?
The council tells us there is no intrinsic value in a plate, and that licenses are not for sale, yet large sums of money are changing hands. What are you buying if not the transfer of a license, a directorship ?

A Ltd company without a license is rendered worthless. There is, in fact, nothing to sell, nothing to buy and nothing to transfer without the the license. Incorporation is simply used as a mechanism to transfer control from one person to another.

If we can all agree, it was not the intention of Parliament to sell public property for an artificial premium, then it's a Black Market. :-|

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It still does not make it illegal.... and therefore not black-market.... and I would suggest you take a long look at European law........ where premiums on licences are recognised :wink: and if a person wishes to register as a limited company... that is his right... the limited company is a protection....... and can be freely sold.....

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MR T wrote:
It still does not make it illegal.... and therefore not black-market.... and I would suggest you take a long look at European law........ where premiums on licences are recognised :wink: and if a person wishes to register as a limited company... that is his right... the limited company is a protection....... and can be freely sold.....



Well let's say I agree with you Mr. T. Then if that is the case, give everyone a license to incorporate, if they so choose. That way, we can all have license plates registered as a limited company, with a recognised premium, to sell on the open market and not the black market as we do now.


Sounds good to me Mr. T. Where do I sign up :wink:

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Skull wrote:
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It still does not make it illegal.... and therefore not black-market.... and I would suggest you take a long look at European law........ where premiums on licences are recognised :wink: and if a person wishes to register as a limited company... that is his right... the limited company is a protection....... and can be freely sold.....



Well let's say I agree with you Mr. T. Then if that is the case, give everyone a license to incorporate, if they so choose. That way, we can all have license plates registered as a limited company, with a recognised premium, to sell on the open market and not the black market as we do now.


Sounds good to me Mr. T. Where do I sign up :wink:
I think you have already had that option on previous occasions... :wink:

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Just remember that the council has the right to make any changes it wants to the licencing conditons and at any time it wants.

You have no guarantee of still holding a licence after its next renewal date.

They can revoke some or all, their only legal restriction is that they must act in a fair and even handed way.


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Frank Lay wrote:
Just remember that the council has the right to make any changes it wants to the licencing conditons and at any time it wants.

You have no guarantee of still holding a licence after its next renewal date.

They can revoke some or all, their only legal restriction is that they must act in a fair and even handed way.


Well that would be a first.

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