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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:11 pm 
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what businessman fantasy are you on about jimmy?

i dont own a taxi license or want one - im happy renting


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LongshanksED wrote:
what businessman fantasy are you on about jimmy?

i dont own a taxi license or want one - im happy renting

Once again yo0u display an inability to read.

Try again.

Any wonder that the trade is in such a state when the bewildered herd canon fodder like you can't even read.



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:20 pm 
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jimmy boy,

If the councillors are so bad, and you are so wise.
Why dont you stand for election?

Put up or shut up.

You might find it more interesting than talking about rape on web forums all the time.


Quite simple, because the system is corrupt.

Who want to be elected a scumbag.

And the thing about the council ignoring best practice and being responsible for two victims being assaulted, is that it irritates you.

Because you know I'm right.

And your awful position is that rapes are acceptable - reasonable - just as long as the council conducts the survey that protects vested interest.

You guys are bigger scumbags than the council.





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Jesus you really are a tvvat aren't you? Using Rape victims to get a plate?? How low will you go?


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Aye jimmy boy,

Just like the pathetic wee moaner that you are, complain about the council but not prepared to stand up and do something about it.

Just you stay on the sidelines, and watch the big boys play.

I do worry about your facination with rape and sexual assault.

If something else does happen, I do hope the police have the sense to check you out.


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Frank Lay wrote:
Aye jimmy boy,

Just like the pathetic wee moaner that you are, complain about the council but not prepared to stand up and do something about it.

Just you stay on the sidelines, and watch the big boys play.

I do worry about your facination with rape and sexual assault.

If something else does happen, I do hope the police have the sense to check you out.



In December 2007 the Scottish Government issued its Best Practice Guide for councils in respect of taxi licensing:-

Section 8 stated:

Licensing requirements which are unduly stringent will tend unreasonably to restrict the supply of taxi and PHC services, by putting up the cost of operation or otherwise restricting entry to the trade.

Local licensing authorities should recognise that too stringent an approach may not be in the public interest - and could, indeed, have safety implications.


Section 9 added:

For example, it is clearly important that somebody using a taxi or PHC to go home alone late at night should be confident that the driver does not have a serious criminal record and that the vehicle is safe. But on the other hand, if the supply of taxis or PHCs has been unduly constrained by onerous licensing conditions,, ....

..... then that person's safety might be put at risk by having to wait on late-night streets for a taxi or PHC to arrive; he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire.

City of Edinburgh Council ignored this best practice Guide, and continued its policy to restrict taxis. Council Solicitor Robert Millar was a member of the working party which compiled the Best Practice criteria. He knew about them - both when the council raitified its policy to restrict in November 2007 and later when the council was refusing licence applications.

Sexual assault #1

In August 2008 a 26-year-old woman suffered a serious sexual assault after being picked up in the city centre by a possible bogus private hire car driver. The victim had left the Hudson Hotel in Hope Street at the west end at around 2.15am on Sunday August 17 and got into the dark-coloured saloon. She was driven from there to Brunstane Road South, where the man is believed to have assaulted her within the vehicle. The suspect in that particular incident was described as black, 35 to 40 years old, medium build, with black short hair and a round face.

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jim/My%20Documents/EdinburgRapes.htm

This incident reflects the specific circumstances warned about, indeed "predicted", in the Best Practice Guide - he or she might even be tempted to enter an unlicensed vehicle with an unlicensed driver illegally plying for hire (Section 9).

This is precisely what happened.

Yet, Edinburgh's Council deliberately ignored the Scottish Government's warning. This female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide.

Sexual Assault #2

In February 2009 the same thing happened again. Once again a female was sexually attacked in the precise circumstances warned about in section 9 of the Best Practice Guide.

http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Woma ... 6171988.jp

This time the perpetrator was apprehended and brought to justice.

Trial Judge Lady Smith said, "What she needed was a taxi to uplift her and take her safely back to the hostel where she was staying".


The above is all factually correct Frank, but you seem to have some difficulty understanding it. What part don't you understand?

I really can't see the problem you seem to be having :?

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gary gary gary,

You know this is a complete red herring.

So what if she said that the girl needed to get a taxi.

You cant force people into taxis, the public make their choice!.

What do you suggest?, a taxi on every corner? with a police officer to force any single drunk female to get in?

These incidents have had NOTHING to do with a shortage of taxis.
It is simply poor choices by the individuals!


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Frank Lay wrote:
gary gary gary,

You know this is a complete red herring.

So what if she said that the girl needed to get a taxi.

You cant force people into taxis, the public make their choice!.

What do you suggest?, a taxi on every corner? with a police officer to force any single drunk female to get in?

These incidents have had NOTHING to do with a shortage of taxis.
It is simply poor choices by the individuals!


Frank Frank Frank

What don't you understand.

The government warned what happens when the supply of taxis is restricted. Two females were seriously sexually assaulted because they got into unlicensed vehicles because they couldn't get a taxi.

Had there been a taxi available they would have taken it and been safe. It's as simple as that.

The shortage exists to prop up vested interests. Females are assaulted because vested interests are mpre important than their safety.

Now, had this been a female close to you Frank. Ypu'd be chuffed about this would you?

Council's can ignore guidelines as long as there is no effect. But when the effect can be related to the cause of ignoring advice - curtains.

Or at least, in a council that cares, it shold be.

Now, let's look to the future.

Another wee lassie gets raped, or even murdered, because the council's shortage of taxis prevents it, what does Frank Lay say then?

How many assaults rapes or murders will it take for you to recognise your shameful position on this?

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Frank Lay wrote:
gary gary gary,

You know this is a complete red herring.

So what if she said that the girl needed to get a taxi.

You cant force people into taxis, the public make their choice!.

What do you suggest?, a taxi on every corner? with a police officer to force any single drunk female to get in?

These incidents have had NOTHING to do with a shortage of taxis.
It is simply poor choices by the individuals!


Frank, get real!


I would rather see a taxi on every corner knowing that everything possible was being done to minimise the risk.

If it ever happened to my daughter under the same circumstances, I would gut Cllr Keir like the pig that he is. :-|

You are playing politics and pretendy plate values with young girls' lives. :-|

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jimmy boy,

This rape fetish thing has really got you going, hasn't it.

It has been a while since you have posted so frequently, so it must be getting you really excited.

I could sum up your recent posts as jimmy says "rape rape sexual assault ooh ooh rape rape ooh ooh too quick"


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Frank Lay wrote:
jimmy boy,

This rape fetish thing has really got you going, hasn't it.

It has been a while since you have posted so frequently, so it must be getting you really excited.

I could sum up your recent posts as jimmy says "rape rape sexual assault ooh ooh rape rape ooh ooh too quick"


Whatever, but I won't hold my breath. :roll:

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Are you "enjoying it too" gary?


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Are you "enjoying it too" gary?
Must be :roll: :roll: and to think i COULD BE A SAD [edited by admin] LIKE YOU?

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Ye, sounds like you are.


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Frank Lay wrote:
Ye, sounds like you are.


Unlike you Frank, muppet?

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Have you Edinburgh guys ever sat around the table to discuss your grievances.Its all good giving out advice but try practicing what you preach.
And when you have sorted out your problems come to Dundee and show us how it is done. :D


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