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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:53 pm 
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Apparently, going by jims opening post, the guilty cabby didn't call him a black c***, he called him a *country of origin* (what I prosume to be Indian, chinese or Pakistani) c*** which was probably shortened to [edited by admin], chinky or possibly the N word. If these where the actual comments then yes, that is racist. And the matter of being a c*** is subjective. Whilst one person believes another is acting in a c*ntish way, doesn't mean that the other person believes he is acting a C*** but may actually believe the other is. In a way they're both being c***s


No I don't believe someone should be given immunity by pulling the race card. Both parties where possibly in the wrong to some degree to bring about this argument so neither shoul be let off lightly. But again, without the proper statement of facts on how the discussion went down, well never know who said what and in what circumstances. Was it an escalated debate or did the cabby throw the derogatory comment out when the driver took a wrong turn?


I honestly don't know if i made a complaint of an ethnic minority individual calling me a racial slur if it would get the police/ courts full attention. I believe it should but honestly don't know. Again it could be circumstantial! If I made the complaint about an argument we had the. I doubt it, but if it was in the context of say a fist fight, perhaps it might


But remember, the cabby isn't being punished by the law twice. He's being punished by 2 different sets of people. The law and the authorities that decide if he is fight to hold a license


I'll Leave you with another example, the tv/radio presenter Richard Bacon used to host Blue Peter until he was caught on a night out with drugs. The police arrested him & prosecuted him. The CONSEQUENCE of this was his employers at the BBC sacking him. 2 punishments by 2 different sets of people for the same crime


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:16 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
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Apparently, going by jims opening post, the guilty cabby didn't call him a black c***, he called him a *country of origin* (what I prosume to be Indian, chinese or Pakistani) c*** which was probably shortened to [edited by admin], chinky or possibly the N word. If these where the actual comments then yes, that is racist. And the matter of being a c*** is subjective. Whilst one person believes another is acting in a c*ntish way, doesn't mean that the other person believes he is acting a C*** but may actually believe the other is. In a way they're both being c***s


No I don't believe someone should be given immunity by pulling the race card. Both parties where possibly in the wrong to some degree to bring about this argument so neither shoul be let off lightly. But again, without the proper statement of facts on how the discussion went down, well never know who said what and in what circumstances. Was it an escalated debate or did the cabby throw the derogatory comment out when the driver took a wrong turn?


I honestly don't know if i made a complaint of an ethnic minority individual calling me a racial slur if it would get the police/ courts full attention. I believe it should but honestly don't know. Again it could be circumstantial! If I made the complaint about an argument we had the. I doubt it, but if it was in the context of say a fist fight, perhaps it might


But remember, the cabby isn't being punished by the law twice. He's being punished by 2 different sets of people. The law and the authorities that decide if he is fight to hold a license


I'll Leave you with another example, the tv/radio presenter Richard Bacon used to host Blue Peter until he was caught on a night out with drugs. The police arrested him & prosecuted him. The CONSEQUENCE of this was his employers at the BBC sacking him. 2 punishments by 2 different sets of people for the same crime


You see Lonshanks, once again you miss the point. Let's take the word serf, for instance. I would apply this word to anyone driving a taxi, Caucasion or Coloured. I've already made the point, being white and driving a taxi is the new black and that being said, less than Caucasian gives you diplomatic immunity, should you choose to pull the race card. (Oh and Longshanks, you are delusional, if you think any claim from you of racism would be taken seriously by the police.)

Am I being racist for calling you a serf?


Oh and there's a big difference, being sacked by your employer for some indiscretion or petty criminal offence, and having your licence suspended by a bunch of scumbag councillors with a political agenda to fulfill.

Oh and once again, due to your dissociation you've missed the still serving police officers with their serious offences. I don't see any councillors deciding their lively hoods.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... rs-1166039

"Scotland’s eight police forces admitted having 333 officers who are guilty of serious offences – and the true figure could be higher because not all data was revealed."

It's amazing to think, you are happy to be treated as a second-class citizen. #-o


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:50 am 
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LongshanksED wrote:
But remember, the cabby isn't being punished by the law twice. He's being punished by 2 different sets of people. The law and the authorities that decide if he is fight to hold a license


I'll Leave you with another example, the tv/radio presenter Richard Bacon used to host Blue Peter until he was caught on a night out with drugs. The police arrested him & prosecuted him. The CONSEQUENCE of this was his employers at the BBC sacking him. 2 punishments by 2 different sets of people for the same crime


Breathtaking. Absofeckingbreathtaking.

How can you have a discourse with such an illogical individual.

It beggar's belief.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:14 am 
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i refuse to believe there wasn't any corroborating evidence here. who in their right mind would cut a deal when its a he said/she said situation. the corroborating evidence is the central issue to this whole subject and without any of us knowing that then its a pointless thread imho.


Durr, your lawyer is provided with a legal aid ticket. Which is normally a quick thrust up the ass based on a dirty deal between your lawyer, the Sheriff and the prosecution, if everyone is happy, now let's proceed, please bend over... Hopefully, your council will look favorably on your licence, not that wee give sh*t because that's another story?

Oh and if you plead not guilty, the Sheriff may not approve of you dancing everyone through a court case when you are quite obviously guilty, even if there is mitigating circumstances. There's a good chap. Take the slap on the wrist and save everyone a lot of trouble, including yourself? Of course, you now walk away believing the sentence could have been much worse, and “justice” has been served.

In other words, it's a box ticking exercise. :sad:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:36 am 
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Skull, I understand the point you are making but having represented myself in the sherriff court on more than one occasion over the years I still refuse to believe that any prosecution would even proceed on a he said/she said basis and any brief that is cutting some deal when there is no corroborating evidence should be struck off. If that is truly the case then yes it is absolutely a kangaroo court, but personally, I don't believe it. The full story will come out in the end though.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:42 pm 
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durr wrote:
Skull, I understand the point you are making but having represented myself in the sherriff court on more than one occasion over the years I still refuse to believe that any prosecution would even proceed on a he said/she said basis and any brief that is cutting some deal when there is no corroborating evidence should be struck off. If that is truly the case then yes it is absolutely a kangaroo court, but personally, I don't believe it. The full story will come out in the end though.


I believe what was said was witnessed by another cabby on the same rank. The driver was called a Turkish [edited by admin]* or bas*ard while making derogatory comments of his own. This was after attempting to give a fixed price for a job within the city limits, which started the fracas in the first place.

The accused never denied what he said but after the complaint was made, for all intents and purposes, his side of the story, was no longer of any interest. :-|


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:14 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
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Apparently, going by jims opening post, the guilty cabby didn't call him a black c***, he called him a *country of origin* (what I prosume to be Indian, chinese or Pakistani) c*** which was probably shortened to [edited by admin], chinky or possibly the N word. If these where the actual comments then yes, that is racist. And the matter of being a c*** is subjective. Whilst one person believes another is acting in a c*ntish way, doesn't mean that the other person believes he is acting a C*** but may actually believe the other is. In a way they're both being c***s


No I don't believe someone should be given immunity by pulling the race card. Both parties where possibly in the wrong to some degree to bring about this argument so neither shoul be let off lightly. But again, without the proper statement of facts on how the discussion went down, well never know who said what and in what circumstances. Was it an escalated debate or did the cabby throw the derogatory comment out when the driver took a wrong turn?


I honestly don't know if i made a complaint of an ethnic minority individual calling me a racial slur if it would get the police/ courts full attention. I believe it should but honestly don't know. Again it could be circumstantial! If I made the complaint about an argument we had the. I doubt it, but if it was in the context of say a fist fight, perhaps it might


But remember, the cabby isn't being punished by the law twice. He's being punished by 2 different sets of people. The law and the authorities that decide if he is fight to hold a license


I'll Leave you with another example, the tv/radio presenter Richard Bacon used to host Blue Peter until he was caught on a night out with drugs. The police arrested him & prosecuted him. The CONSEQUENCE of this was his employers at the BBC sacking him. 2 punishments by 2 different sets of people for the same crime


You see Lonshanks, once again you miss the point. Let's take the word serf, for instance. I would apply this word to anyone driving a taxi, Caucasion or Coloured. I've already made the point, being white and driving a taxi is the new black and that being said, less than Caucasian gives you diplomatic immunity, should you choose to pull the race card. (Oh and Longshanks, you are delusional, if you think any claim from you of racism would be taken seriously by the police.)

Am I being racist for calling you a serf?


Oh and there's a big difference, being sacked by your employer for some indiscretion or petty criminal offence, and having your licence suspended by a bunch of scumbag councillors with a political agenda to fulfill.

Oh and once again, due to your dissociation you've missed the still serving police officers with their serious offences. I don't see any councillors deciding their lively hoods.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... rs-1166039

"Scotland’s eight police forces admitted having 333 officers who are guilty of serious offences – and the true figure could be higher because not all data was revealed."

It's amazing to think, you are happy to be treated as a second-class citizen. #-o


Are you going to answer the above Longshanks or is your dissociation kicking in order to protect your little world? #-o


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Well, it looks like Longshanks wants to see himself as some sort of paragon of virtue. While councillors and police are all pillars of the community, where the law, truth and justice go seamlessly together because everyone can expect to be treated equally. #-o

Longshanks isn't a serf, as described by myself, he's a taxi driving businessman of the highest moral standard. #-o

Oh and any tangible reality that conflicts with his world, he will simply ignore or explain away as an aberration. #-o

The system has done a real job on you Longshanks, talk about thinking for oneself. #-o


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:12 pm 
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Longshanks has left the building. Yes, he was on earlier but failed to answer the question: Am I being racist for calling you a serf?

Oh and he still hasn't made a comment on the 333 serving police officers guilty of serious offences. #-o

Your mother and father must have filled your head with a lot of nonsense to think the way you do Longshanks. You're not an only child per chance or someone with a religious background? You know. Good things happen to good people, and if you do anything bad there's a man in the sky keeping score. #-o You seem desperate for validation you are your mummy's good little soldier. #-o

What's wrong Longshanks, don't you like the truth? #-o


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Longshanks, model citizen and taxi driver, once again, has left the building, and he still won't answer the questions concerning his pretendy little world. #-o :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:58 pm 
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I'm sorry mr skull, I didn't know I had to post in your time and not when it was convenient for me. I had things like family & work that take precedence.

With your incessant ramblings, I don't even know what your asking? Could you repeat it please & I'll get back to you when I get a quiet moment on a rank or when i get home!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:28 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
I'm sorry mr skull, I didn't know I had to post in your time and not when it was convenient for me. I had things like family & work that take precedence.

With your incessant ramblings, I don't even know what your asking? Could you repeat it please & I'll get back to you when I get a quiet moment on a rank or when i get home!


Longshanks, if you go to the board index page, your online name appears when logged on and viewing the posts. You've been logged on for hours over the last few days, and you know exactly the questions I've asked you to answer. The truth is, you know the answers but that would mean the truth penetrating your little fantasy world. You know, the one your mummy warned you about. #-o

I'm guessing you drove for perhaps two years, for a friend or relative who introduced you to taxi driving before you bought a taxi and radio position? You must have thought you won the lottery, a nice shiny taxi and a shareholder in a taxi company. I bet you were creaming in your pants. #-o

The truth is Longshanks. You will defend the beliefs you bought into along with your taxi no matter how ridiculous, just to prove to everyone in authority you are Santa's trusted little serf. #-o


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:46 pm 
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The truth skull is that I usually read the forums on my phone and everytime I look up another web page, this one is usually running on another page. Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not hanging on the forums everyday much like you are

Now, what was your questions again?


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The truth skull is that I usually read the forums on my phone and everytime I look up another web page, this one is usually running on another page. Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not hanging on the forums everyday much like you are

Now, what was your questions again?


You're a liar. #-o


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