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Sorry about that, I made a roger of the posts...

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

So John, are you a happy being a cab Cab *igger? I know I hated being a taxi driver, but that's not quite the same thing.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

I was intrigued to know why you felt so superior - I felt that it must be something mega out of this world. Anyway the best of luck to you.






Okay lets put things into perspective - A taxi driver gets beaten up and you go off on one, we are all the poop on your shoe!

What exactly did you do during your twenty years to make things safe............when countless taxi drivers up and down the country were murdered - WHERE EXACTLY IN THE TAXI INDUSTRY DID THAT PUT YOU ON THE POOP SHOE? Do you not think that it is pious/hypocritical of you to slate a beating - when people were murdered on your watch?

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

The point was, no matter what happens in the taxi trade not one of you will lift a finger to better your lot.

My first comment on this thread was an attempt at being ironical, especially after what happened to Old Ken.

I did nothing to make things safe, I was too busy fighting with the council on other issues but at least I made the effort to get in there and to slug it out.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

You only have to read up on this forum, as ever there is to a degree apathy, there again there always has been. Having got that out of the way, you were not "The One" on his jack jones! many, many, are fighting up and down the country for this that and the other. So for you to say "Not one of you" is a bit off to say the least.



I think you got your priorities a bit mixed up - WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOING HOME SAFE........after all that is your point isn't it?

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

John, look at my first comment again, I was being Ironical.

And no one is fighting anything up and down the country or should I say, almost no one. There are always exceptions to the rule.

Who are these organisations providing legal representation up at the council or fighting in the courts to protect the rights of taxi drivers?

You want a safe working environment. Where is your representation that's making it happen?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Where is/was yours? There is no good in asking the question of others if you cannot or could not do the same. If I remember correctly your idea of safety was to go out as you put it, "Tooled Up". On that basis I think that it is fair to assume that you could not make it any different to today.

To a degree you are right in the fact that drivers do not do enough to help themselves - but that always has, and will be the case. The nature of the job isolates you from colleagues, so I guess bonding like a normal workplace is not going to happen any time soon.

I would also say there is no reason for you to be "bigging" out the fact that you got out, to then have the attitude to men and women that you worked with, that they are the lowest of the low, just remember they choose to work as opposed to just accepting the dole - that in itself deserves respect. You also fail to grasp that there are risks in many occupations, ours is one of many that run risks, and is recognised as such. Action such as Militancy/Confrontation will never stop assaults/murders, the only thing you can do is to try and personally cut the odds on that happening, and there are no guarantees on that either.

Basically if you think that it is just cabbies who have no clout, then think of the Police officers who had to buy their own stab proof vests (some Federation they have), then there are soldiers (the Queens army lol) who never had enough body armour to go around, in a nutshell the powers that be, do not care about them or us. So if you think that in times of austerity that the L.A's are going to help us with CCTV/whatever to eliminate problems in our cabs, well think again, because it never happened in your day when times were better, and quite frankly they could not care less.

P.S. If you are going to do irony....let me know, as most of what you are saying comes across as if you mean it.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

Cabby John Writes:



Listen, I was not fighting the council on driver safety issues except for disabled wheelchair access, but I was fighting. And over the years, I’ve had my fair share of victories and defeats, but driver safety was not at the top of my agenda. Oh and I’ve also represented drivers at council meetings and written their bullshit letters, to get them off the hook, when faced with allegations from members of the public.

Now regardless of whether you want to believe I was successful or not changes absolutely nothing. The fact is, at present, your trade is doing Nada, Zilch a Big Fat Zero. Now if you want a real debate, let’s discuss your next move, which I might add, will be your first.



Now that’s a fair comment, but it’s also an excuse for doing Jack all.



I was calling my colleagues Cab *iggers for years before I got out. The lowest of the low is nothing new. Oh and once again, you go down the route of trying to justify doing nothing. You do see a familiar pattern developing here?



Ooops and there it is again, even more justification for your present situation.



I am serious about taxi drivers being treated as Cab *iggers by their Uncle Toms and all working for the Massa with no exceptions.

Oh and I merely used irony to land the blow. Oh and it caught your attention.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

I get the gist of your post! It is called ducking bobbin and weaving, and of course the play with words (basically playing games) - Oh, and the name calling gives you very little credibility.

You point out that the reasoning put forward, (that is the reality that you fail to address/reply), is a short coming for doing nothing - and yet you never recognised that the fragmentation of the trade is the real reason for lack of unity. The bottom line is, and (I quote) "You failed" to do what you are slagging off the rest of the trade for what you also failed on!!!!!!

The reality is that in the present climate (nothing to do with the weather) we will never get what we want, and that contrary to your limited thoughts it is a world wide problem. Drivers will have to take preventative measures for their own safety as they do in South Africa, America and other countries around the world.

Remember you said....... ....well the bottom line is that it is basically uncontrollable - you are asking for something that is not practicable/possible, as already mentioned it is problematic throughout the world..........NOT JUST THE U.K.

Before you go any further, and just remember as already mentioned, this started off as an assault topic - you never (not that it is possible) managed to stop during your day, drivers getting murdered - so stop slagging off others for assaults, it is pathetic the way you go about it.

You can play with words all day - you will NEVER beat me.....you are wrong, and should man up about it.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.

Theodore Roosevelt

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

[color=#0000FF]Right girls back to topic.....In 2008 they introduced CCTV into taxis in Bootle ( Liverpool) the results were amazing.
This is 2014 and Glasgow has converted and Edinburgh sits twiddling there thumbs as usual.


Gary I seen you at a couple of union meetings in the early 90s but you obviously decided to go it alone with your crusades none of it to do with driver safety.

In 2008 a lot of taxis through the UK were put of the road by the under bonnet fire saga.
Black Horse has accepted liability and thanks to the London Taxi Drivers Association for taking up the fight represent 450 taxi drivers who will eventually get paid out.
So sticking together does pay. I did not see anybody north of the border fighting.

Sorry boys just a commercial break lol

It probably comes across like that - but it always was on topic. As stated earlier in one of my posts However there is a caveat to that........You/whoever must have been there and won the day, instead of failing, and then criticising others in a very vitriolic manner for not achieving ones self.





I take it that when you start quoting from politicians (the poop on your/my shoe), then you are out of argument - GAME OVER.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

Cab *igger John Writes:




Ah I see what you are getting at now John, being a Cab *igger is an "achievement" as is making excuses for doing nothing and taking it up the ar*e for a living. Well, John, I have no argument with you there. You are right on the money.

You could have said this sooner John, it would have saved all this confusion. You must be one of these high achieving Cabs *iggers happily working for the Massa.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

London has always been the exception to the rule, which has already been stated on this thread. Oh and you can't seriously be comparing yourself to a London Cabby. You are not even close.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Gary since when did I say I was comparing myself with anybody