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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:34 pm 
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Gary I seen you at a couple of union meetings in the early 90s but you obviously decided to go it alone with your crusades none of it to do with driver safety.


We challenged the council over the safety issue regarding wheelchairs and the HSE, backed us up with a detailed risk assessment. Myself and a few others were exempt from doing wheelchairs but without the need for a medical certificate. The vehicles are simply not fit for purpose. Even now, if your injure yourself, you are not insured. So much for the trade confronting the issue of driver safety. #-o #-o #-o We posted the report, right here on TDO. Oh and guys were still being suspended for refusing wheelchairs. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:57 pm 
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Oh and now that I come to think of it. Uncle Tom, Barry (Eric Barry) used the T&G Union to become Councillor Barry, after laying waste to CRT's finances with his High Felt computer idea. He was another one that was full of [edited by admin]. #-o

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:25 am 
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However there is a caveat to that........You/whoever must have been there and won the day, instead of failing, and then criticising others in a very vitriolic manner for not achieving ones self.



Ah I see what you are getting at now John, being a Cab *igger is an "achievement" as is making excuses for doing nothing and taking it up the ar*e for a living. #-o Well, John, I have no argument with you there. You are right on the money. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

You could have said this sooner John, it would have saved all this confusion. You must be one of these high achieving Cabs *iggers happily working for the Massa. #-o #-o =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>



So that’s where I went wrong, according to Cab *igger John, you are all happy high achieving Cab *iggers. :shock:

The things you learn on this forum… :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:04 pm 
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Oh and now that I come to think of it. Uncle Tom, Barry (Eric Barry) used the T&G Union to become Councillor Barry, after laying waste to CRT's finances with his High Felt computer idea. He was another one that was full of [edited by admin]. #-o




Being personal Gary is your trade mark and what happened in the past you were part of because you could have had your say all those years ago at the meetings you attended.
We are talking about driver safety on this topic not your personal crusade against taxi drivers, every man or woman has the right to work in a safe environment.


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However there is a caveat to that........You/whoever must have been there and won the day, instead of failing, and then criticising others in a very vitriolic manner for not achieving ones self.



Ah I see what you are getting at now John, being a Cab *igger is an "achievement" as is making excuses for doing nothing and taking it up the ar*e for a living. #-o Well, John, I have no argument with you there. You are right on the money. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

You could have said this sooner John, it would have saved all this confusion. You must be one of these high achieving Cabs *iggers happily working for the Massa. #-o #-o =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>



So that’s where I went wrong, according to Cab *igger John, you are all happy high achieving Cab *iggers. :shock:

The things you learn on this forum… :shock:


Skull as I said you know nothing about me.

You see unlike yourself I can stand on my own two feet! I do not need a partner to hold my hand because I am competent as to what I do. You see I am an "Independent" I pay no overheads to any office, in a nutshell I am truly my own boss I do not work for an office/anyone, in fact the only person who comes anywhere near to being my boss is my good lady.......on that one she knows how far she can go!

You see, I start when I want to, I finish when I want to - if I want a day off then I take it - If I want to put an extra shift in then I do it. You see, I have the penultimate coming in and going home in my working life. You can no longer do that - you will have to fit in with others - they will bark and you will have to go running....good boy!

You see, If anyone performs in my cab then they are asked/told depending on the situation to leave/get out.


Part of my life was spent working in a Steel Works (Hot Rolling Section) - what would you have them do......turn the furnace down so we did not get burnt from time to time.........make the "Billets" softer so we did not get broken toes if one was unfortunate! Of course none of those because risk/danger came with the job!

A big part of my life was running "Pubs", again a situation that runs the risk of assault and murder.......it came with the job!

Just like the Police, Fire service, Nhs, Forces, Steel Workers and many other jobs/professions risk comes with the job - Cab Drivers are no different. The problem that you deride others for is world wide, it is not something that you can fight to actually stop - you proved that by your failure to apparently try to do something, as to what the answer is you have never said. Having said that sometimes you have to man up as an individual and sort your own problems out, or in your case leave the trade.

You see, once again you choose not to answer my post re risk in many occupations, on that it is something that whilst I do not like it, it is something that I have to deal with.



So to sum you up.


Would I swap it for cleaning up other peoples dogs "Dog Poop", no I would not.............But! That is what you now do. At least the s h I t in my cab walks out on its own.

I used the start to a number of lines of "You See" to the point of being boring - it was done deliberate because you "Do Not See" which is obvious by your childish name calling - it is called not having the answer, it also demonstrates that you cannot man up and back down gracefully.

Nobody holds my hand!!...................we cannot say the same about you..........walkies :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:09 pm 
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You see unlike yourself I can stand on my own two feet! I do not need a partner to hold my hand because I am competent as to what I do. You see I am an "Independent" I pay no overheads to any office, in a nutshell I am truly my own boss I do not work for an office/anyone, in fact the only person who comes anywhere near to being my boss is my good lady.......on that one she knows how far she can go!


Ah I see, so not only are you a high achieving Cab *igger you are “Independent* Cab *igger. I'm glad we cleared that up. #-o
Nonetheless, you are licensed by your council. Meaning you have few rights and little protection when picking up the dregs of society. #-o

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You see, I start when I want to, I finish when I want to - if I want a day off then I take it - If I want to put an extra shift in then I do it. You see, I have the penultimate coming in and going home in my working life. You can no longer do that - you will have to fit in with others - they will bark and you will have to go running....good boy!


That’s not how the dog walking/crèche business works at all. You take on the clients you want, and you get paid to go for walks in the country.

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You see, If anyone performs in my cab then they are asked/told depending on the situation to leave/get out.

Yeah and if someone makes a complaint, you are forced to spill your guts to the Cab Inspector in the hope that he doesn’t decide to suspend your licence. Aye Cab *igger John, you are your own man alright. #-o

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Part of my life was spent working in a Steel Works (Hot Rolling Section) - what would you have them do......turn the furnace down so we did not get burnt from time to time.........make the "Billets" softer so we did not get broken toes if one was unfortunate! Of course none of those because risk/danger came with the job!
A big part of my life was running "Pubs", again a situation that runs the risk of assault and murder.......it came with the job!


Ah here we go again, memory lane. It was alright to take sh*t and risk life and limb for a pittance, and this somehow makes it perfectly acceptable when driving a cab. You are big on justifying your current situation John. One might even call you an apologist for the working man not getting up off his ar*e and demanding better pay and conditions. #-o

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Just like the Police, Fire service, Nhs, Forces, Steel Workers and many other jobs/professions risk comes with the job - Cab Drivers are no different.


Bollocks!! There is a certain amount of risk, deemed as acceptable in every line of work, but no one is expected to put themselves at risk just for the sake of it. That’s why you have the HSE, and workers’ rights to make sure you are not putting yourself in unnecessary danger, unless of course, you are a Cab *igger. #-o

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The problem that you deride others for is world wide, it is not something that you can fight to actually stop - you proved that by your failure to apparently try to do something, as to what the answer is you have never said.


Don’t talk sh*t, I’ve given answers to numerous problems facing Cab Drivers, only no one will get off their are*e and do something about it. They all seem to be apologetic Cab *iggers like you John, full of excuses and justification for doing nothing. #-o

Oh and if you want proof take the wheelchair safety issue in Edinburgh and up and down the county. We slaughtered the council on that issue with the help of the HSE, and the trade reps of the time would not touch it. So only a few who were prepared to exercise their rights benefited. #-o

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Having said that sometimes you have to man up as an individual and sort your own problems out, or in your case leave the trade.


You wouldn’t know anything about manning up John and Cab *iggers the likes of you were one of the reasons I left the trade, so any derision, is well earned in my book. :twisted:

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You see, once again you choose not to answer my post re risk in many occupations, on that it is something that whilst I do not like it, it is something that I have to deal with.


John, if you want to choose a specific issue, you need guidance on, be my guest, but I have answered your banal excuses for doing zilch many times. You just keep refusing to see it. :roll:



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So to sum you up.

Would I swap it for cleaning up other peoples dogs "Dog Poop", no I would not.............But! That is what you now do. At least the s h I t in my cab walks out on its own.


You are obviously not a dog lover John because you are missing all the good parts, of being out in the beautiful countryside with your canine companions. And I’ll take dog sh*t to the excrement you pick up off the streets, any day of the week. The human feces you deal with infects your very person, and there is no washing it off after a day's work, as it goes more than skin deep. Oh and if you want proof just look in the mirror. #-o

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It is quite easy to see as to why you are so bitter, it is obvious that you never got the respect that you crave. How in heavens name do you expect anyone in the numbers that you need, to follow someone who rants like you do. You do not possess the leadership skills/vitriol/charisma that a true leader of men needs to get things done. Two minutes (If that) in your presence, would be enough for most people to know that you were not the man to get things done, or for the people who matter to take you seriously.


You mention a number of times your one "Apparent" success re wheelchairs, whoopee do , something that would be to do with H&S and not the topic in question. Just like another gas bag on here (or used to be) you have NO ANSWER to the problem headline on this topic, which so happens to be a world wide problem/issue. Not once have you said "I/you took the lead by installing CCTV - Your not so clever claim, is that you went out "Tooled Up"..........How can anyone treat you seriously - Oh I forgot...................they never.

One very simple question (I will print it a number of times so you do not miss it)...........

What is the answer to the problem that NO ONE throughout the world has yet managed to solve?

What is the answer to the problem that NO ONE throughout the world has yet managed to solve?

What is the answer to the problem that NO ONE throughout the world has yet managed to solve?


P.S. You are missing this trade more than you will ever admit - otherwise you would have p!$$ed off a long time ago, and so you should have.

P.P.S. It would seem that your childish name calling refuses to go away, so I have decided to do childish and reciprocate - as from today I shall refer to you as "Barbara".....as in "Barbara Woodhouse" - anyone for walkies :D

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:28 pm 
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It is quite easy to see as to why you are so bitter, it is obvious that you never got the respect that you crave. How in heavens name do you expect anyone in the numbers that you need, to follow someone who rants like you do. You do not possess the leadership skills/vitriol/charisma that a true leader of men needs to get things done. Two minutes (If that) in your presence, would be enough for most people to know that you were not the man to get things done, or for the people who matter to take you seriously.


What are you on about now, respect, leadership skills, vitriol, charisma, are you on drugs? We were not trying to represent the trade only ourselves, on the issues that mattered to us. The “trade reps” were there for all that nonsense, not us. I think you are confusing me with someone else. :? #-o

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You mention a number of times your one "Apparent" success re wheelchairs, whoopee do , something that would be to do with H&S and not the topic in question. Just like another gas bag on here (or used to be) you have NO ANSWER to the problem headline on this topic, which so happens to be a world wide problem/issue. Not once have you said "I/you took the lead by installing CCTV - Your not so clever claim, is that you went out "Tooled Up"..........How can anyone treat you seriously - Oh I forgot...................they never.

One very simple question (I will print it a number of times so you do not miss it)...........

What is the answer to the problem that NO ONE throughout the world has yet managed to solve?

What is the answer to the problem that NO ONE throughout the world has yet managed to solve?

What is the answer to the problem that NO ONE throughout the world has yet managed to solve?


John, you are the archetypal apologist Cab *igger and therein lies the problem. You are all the same. You expect someone else to do your fighting. And that is the answer to your question, if you want CCTV installed to make life safer, get off your ar*e and do something about it, instead of looking to blame everyone else for your servility.

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P.S. You are missing this trade more than you will ever admit - otherwise you would have p!$$ed off a long time ago, and so you should have.


Pray tell, what is there to be missed apart from long hours picking up human excrement off the streets? #-o #-o

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P.P.S. It would seem that your childish name calling refuses to go away, so I have decided to do childish and reciprocate - as from today I shall refer to you as "Barbara".....as in "Barbara Woodhouse" - anyone for walkies


Aye whatever makes you happy, I’m here for you John. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I honestly think you are losing the plot! There you are telling us (see your posts) how you were at meetings with the Council representing drivers! and then........

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We were not trying to represent the trade only ourselves, on the issues that mattered to us. The “trade reps” were there for all that nonsense, not us.
........what exactly are you on?

When I tell you I was involved as a "Shop Steward" - I mean I was involved PROPERLY i.e voted on. I was not like you in any way acting like a Barrack room Lawyer, who was NOT ACTUALLY ON BOARD i.e (NOT VOTED ON) you WERE Mr Joe Blogs who was just giving, as they say in Liverpool...gobshite. Basically again as the saying goes.........you cannot educate pork, I did try, but a pig is a pig. #-o

I would also say that if you are ever going to criticise - then do it in a constructive manner, not in the childish way of as ever of NEVER HAVING THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM , you just criticise , again nothing new on that one.

You remind me so much of the one in the asylum..........it is always the others! I would suggest long walks and keep taking the medicine, otherwise you will end up barking mad. I would also add that it would be wise and in the best interest of your limited mental wellbeing, to stay away from this forum as it is only for people with bottle, who do not run away from their problems.

Game definitely over on this one, I will leave it to others to make their own decision regarding you. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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I honestly think you are losing the plot! There you are telling us (see your posts) how you were at meetings with the Council representing drivers! and then........

In the interest of clarity, we never put ourselves forward as trade representatives. Our fight was on minority issues. The trade as it is now, was full of apologist's Cab *iggers and Uncle Toms that claimed to represent the majority of taxi drivers in Edinburgh, when nothing could be further from the truth, as the majorities were not informed or asked for their opinion or even given a vote on any issue. #-o

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When I tell you I was involved as a "Shop Steward" - I mean I was involved PROPERLY i.e voted on. I was not like you in any way acting like a Barrack room Lawyer, who was NOT ACTUALLY ON BOARD i.e (NOT VOTED ON) you WERE Mr Joe Blogs who was just giving, as they say in Liverpool...gobshite. Basically again as the saying goes.........you cannot educate pork, I did try, but a pig is a pig.


Oh here we go again, back to a bygone era when you were the man of substance and not just a servile apologist Cab *igger sitting on his ar*e doing nothing. #-o #-o #-o

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I would also say that if you are ever going to criticise - then do it in a constructive manner, not in the childish way of as ever of NEVER HAVING THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM , you just criticise , again nothing new on that one.

What could be less constructive than sitting on your ar*e and doing nothing? You keep wittering on about being a Shop Steward, well. What are you waiting for, come forth, and represent your trade? #-o

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You remind me so much of the one in the asylum..........it is always the others! I would suggest long walks and keep taking the medicine, otherwise you will end up barking mad. I would also add that it would be wise and in the best interest of your limited mental wellbeing, to stay away from this forum as it is only for people with bottle, who do not run away from their problems.

Game definitely over on this one, I will leave it to others to make their own decision regarding you.


I can’t remember the asylum. You call a taxi trade, ever collectively fighting and winning on any issue. I do, however, know lots of apologist Cab *ggers that have never lifted a finger to fight for anything, including you. #-o

Oh and John, you are delusional if you think you are winning something here, not even close me auld chum... #-o :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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