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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:33 pm 
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So why would the first hirer agree to you picking up passengers subsequently? Why would they waste time and risk ending up sitting beside some drunk/chav/smelly/idiot etc?



That's actually what I said, which is a bit different from what you claimed I said :?


But by paying only a quid (which is less than the bus fare) any normal person (up here, and I suspect in the real world, would expect other people to want to take advantage of the scheme.

Its normal for most people to be able to think outside their cosy little box .............. as the people at Honda say, if we just accepted OK there would be no progress.

The risk, as you put it, is equal if not less for users of this scheme.

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Instead of debating the issue why not ask your council if they are prepared to let you give it a go, on a trial basis, you never know it may just work, to me its a dam good idea and if we don't ask we don't get.
I will be putting the idea to my council on Monday, if we all do the same who knows, and yes JD as you have said its against the law but laws can be changed.


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But by paying only a quid (which is less than the bus fare) any normal person (up here, and I suspect in the real world, would expect other people to want to take advantage of the scheme.

Why be cheaper than the bus? :?

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But by paying only a quid (which is less than the bus fare) any normal person (up here, and I suspect in the real world, would expect other people to want to take advantage of the scheme.


Well again that's missing the point a bit - of course others may want to take advantage, but my point was, why would the first passenger acquiese to that? The passenger has nothing to gain, but would be further inconvenienced and as I said could end up sharing with an undesirable?

You said that the driver could take up to an EXTRA £50 a shift, which is clear profit, and I suspect the average bus passenger will have their basic income around this level, so I suspect some of them won't be hugely sympathetic if you're only getting a pound for a drive that you would have done anyway as dead mileage.

OK, some may accept the inconvenience and the risk of sharing with undesirbables because they want to see the driver earning more pounds, but I doubt if that will be a universal view. Perhaps my view would only be held by a small minority, but neither you nor me know this for certain.

You seem to imply that I'm not living in the real world, but the point is that I am, whereas your scheme is little more than an idea.

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Fine, but if you can't have the possible pitfalls pointed out to you then perhaps you're not as confident about the scheme as you make out - you certainly seem a bit paranoid to any suggestion that the scheme in practice would work less perfectly than it looks on paper.

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TDO wrote:

You seem to imply that I'm not living in the real world, but the point is that I am, whereas your scheme is little more than an idea.



Its a bit more than just an idea ........... we are ready to go ........... the press have been informed and indeed I have been on local TV and Radio promoting the scheme.

The problem is the bull$hit the council is coming up with to try and stop us, even though they insist they are not trying to stop us.

The very simple scheme has been complicated by us having to get peoples consent in accordance with S59, an action that the council are stating constitue touting.

If everyone does suggest the scheme to their council then we will see what other objections are made.

The relevant stuff we have put together on the scheme can be obtained if you email Paul at ghda@btinternet.com

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A similar scheme was tried in Lincoln in 1985/86. Lincoln City transport bought 20 FX4's licensed them as public carriage vehicles, and ran them timetabled, between buses, to sweep up passengers to prevent the other bus operator, (Lincolnshire Road Car)from gaining a toehold. The fares were set higher than the buses by about a third, as I remember. I also remember using them on occaisions, usually as the only passenger. The losses proved disasterous for the bus company, and they eventually sold off the fleet of FX's by tender. They even offered them to the local taxi trade :lol: :lol: :lol: that was after they tried to issue themselves 20 hackney carriage licenses, to find a use for their erstwhile useless "limo's" as they called them. That failed too.

Yet more evidence that councils don't know best. :wink:

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because we are a friendly bunch in the North east, who can actually bear to be with one another!

Is Hartlepool in your manor? :roll:

www.hartlepooltoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.a ... ionID=1109


Hartlepool people only hang monkey's ............... and they only do that when they feel threatened.

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GA wrote:

The concept itself is simple .................... get paid for your dead mileage.

B. Lucky :D

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Two other schemes to cut dead mileage, both run by drivers for drivers both free or almost free , take up.....almost bugger all..

the schemes Taxi exchange
http://www.communityzero.com/taxi-exchange
cost £20 per annum post work other drivers try to mathch you go 50 /50 on the job...benefits driver going gets 50% extra on dead mileage. driver stopping at base gets 50% for doing nowt + he can still work his ground..

scheme two last minute cabs .com
http://lastminutecabs.com/Default.aspx?go=Home
free to register , they take 10% of any work you get, only down fall is the punter finds you and you are already then bidding for his work..

both schemes seem good in principle but to many drivers seem suspicous of joining. These schemes will only work if WE post our jobs , i have visited many couriers site like the two above and they have plenty of jobs on them, they also know how to charge for the web facility but it works for them, yet here we have an almost freebie and virtuallly no interest, Y.


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I think this link might help GA
www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/regional/buses/bol/f ... ?version=1
It seems to contain your scheme or part of it


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What about the nightshift drivers whom are going to be stopped by drunks whom have missed their all night bus and expect to pay 1 pound,or does this scheme just apply through the day! :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)


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What about the nightshift drivers whom are going to be stopped by drunks whom have missed their all night bus and expect to pay 1 pound,or does this scheme just apply through the day! :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

What you mean the drunks want give two hoots as to whether there's a sticker in the wondow? :roll:

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What you mean the drunks want give two hoots as to whether there's a sticker in the wondow? :roll:[/quote]I dont think they will be capable of seeing the sticker,they will just be jumping out in front of us and then we will have to give two hoots.Then there is the chavs as well as word spreads of this scheme


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mixed me last msg up somehow


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found the name......!

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Seems that SPT are planning something of this kind in South Ayrshire, with Logo'd Taxi's running, regularly, on infrequently used Bus Routes.

Special Tangoed(Orange) Taxis are being equipped with Ticket Issuing Machines and will be used, instead of Busses, outside Peak periods.

That, I'm afraid is the sum of my knowledge.

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