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I asked if it were the case ..................... a question not an accusation.

The history of your association with Tony Mite was very public ............ and I'm sure I'm not alone in having questions about it.

Of course you don't have to answer, I would appriciate your wanting to keep your reasons to yourself .................. after all its got nothing to do with anyone on here.

I doubt you will answer as you see yourself as superior to me .............. and you consider me asking you questions or questioning your activity as an insult.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

1 JD dumped Tony Mite, not the other way round.

2 What is the inaccurate information in the lists that you're going on about, or is this the same figment of your imagination that we discussed at length on here a couple of years ago and at various other times?

3 Yes, JD represents TDO, as do I and Alex, next you'll have a problem with a union official representing a union or whatever.

But the point is that your comparison of TDO with the NTA et al is fatuous because it's not a representative organisation.

The NTA, GMB, T&G, local taxi associations are representative organisations, TDO isn't, and has never purported to be; is that clear enough.

And that's different to someone representing TDO.

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Well we shall just have to take your word for that then Dusty ............ won't we.



Have you ever asked a taxi driver how much he's took .................. I suspect that the values of plates get an equally varied answer. But lets not allow facts to get in the way of a good story.



Representatives of unions or whatever are elected.

Representatives of unions or whatever are directed by their membership to carry forward the views of the majority of the membership, who are given opportunity to formulate the proposals and then declare their wishes through a vote.



So why have representatives, or people calling themselves representatives.



But Dusty ........... when we apply the words as is understood by the local authority ............ a representative of a group (whether web-based or otherwise) indicates that they are representing the views of the membership of that group.

You don't, Alex doesn't, JD doesn't and thats because, as you very clearly point out, TDO IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE GROUP.

FFS

B. Lucky

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Bit twisty there Mr GA.

The three mentioned by Dusty represent the views of TDO, and have never represented the views of all TDO posters and readers. In the same way editors represent the views of their publications, not their readers.

Prime example is the GMB.

If the views of the members equated to the views of Mr F, then you would be able to fit all those members into a tuk tuk.

Or are you saying as a member of the GMB that Mr F represents your views to a tee?

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But Sussex .................... Mr F is elected .................. and if the members of his branch aren't happy with his methods then he will not get re-elected.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

In my opinion using the word representative in such instances indicates or suggests that the person contacting the local authorities is speaking on behalf of the members or subscribers, and are taking forward the views or proposals of that group.

I just think that you should consider my sugestions ................. as it is clear from what you and Dusty have said that you don't intend to suggest that those Dusty mentioned are representative of the opinion of the majority of members or subscribers of this site.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Not really - if you look back at TM's posts on here then I'm sure you'll find plenty to substantiate my claim, and that's even without private correspondence.



Of course plates vary in value, just like house prices etc. But you seem to use this fact to invalidate JD's list, for example if the list states they're worth £40k in Taxiville and one subsequently goes for £35k or £45k then you'll use this to invalidate the whole exercise. But anyone who knows the nature of the beast will know that the figures can never be 100% accurate, but on the other hand they aren't materially incorrect.

If someone says a barrel of oil is worth $80 and the next week it's worth $85 do you jump up and down and say that the first figure was incorrect?

I would hope not.

And we've been through all this before, but it wouldn't do to let reality get in the way of a good smear, would it?



Well I don't have a problem with that, but TDO isn't a representative organisation, so why are you trying to draw some sort of comparison?



Because the word is used in a different context and has a different meaning.

If someone phoned you and said they were representing Taxi Talk magazine, would you conclude from that that they represented its readership or even people who wrote letters or even penned articles for it?

No, of course not.




But it's not a group in that context, and anyone with any common sense will know that.

If I join a discussion forum on a newspaper, magazine or political party's website, for example, do I then say that they're representing me? No, of course not, everyone knows that you just join the forum so that you can contribute to it.

Suppose you could contribute to the forum without having to register, would that make you think differently? Probably, so to that extent the membership of the forum is just about having to register to be able to post, and it means nothing more than that.

And since you've run forums of your own in the past then you'll know that the 'member' terminology is the forum software's, not ours. Perhaps it might be clearer if a term like "registrant" was used, but it wouldn't change the substance of what's going on, and indeed I think the vast majority of people are aware of the substance.





Well if you agree that it isn't then what's the problem? The only person who seems to think that it's a representative group is you.

And why do you compare TDO to the unions and NTA if they're different beasts?

You describe the unions as democratic, but call TDO a dictatorship. Does that mean Taxi Talk or T a x i - T o d a y magazines are dictatorships, or when you ran your own forum was that a dictatorship as well?

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And another thing, please read below the following that you agreed to when you registered for the forum. Which part of this or other stuff on TDO made you think that you were joining some kind of representative organisation?

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By the way GA, perhaps your confusion is caused by hearking back to the original Taxi Forums UK, and you'll recall that you and several others set up a system of regional reps, and to that extent there was the genesis of some kind of representative organisation (RO) there.

However, TDO has never done anything like that, so you shouldn't assume that others see it as some sort of RO.

By the way, as a member of TTFUK at that time I would like to know who gave you permission to represent me, and who elected you and the others as representatives?

Dictatorship, anyone

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Did you get a vote?

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Dusty ........... The Taxi Forums UK was the orignal UK taxi forum website.

Its intention was to help people find information, share information so that people could then use that information to uncover unfair local legislation for the individuals and then use that knowledge to the betterment of the trade Nationally.

As the North East Rep for TTFUK I was open about my identity .......... as were all the other reps.

I know who Sussex is ............ I've met him .............. I talk to him regularly ............ I ask his advise as he is a very knowledgeable person ............ you of course will have noticed that although the banter between us has continued neither of us are as disrespectful to each other as once we were ................ and you will have noticed that at no time I refer to him as anything other than his username. I think, or I hope that there is now mutual respect there.

Now tell me .................. when his identity was not known to me (or anyone else) was our relationship at all constructive.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I'm not in his branch.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I would say the other taxi forum was the first UK wide one.

Very simple and fully open to abuse.

I wish it was still going.

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The model that TTFUK ............or should I say Alan Foster set, is the same model that TDO started with.

Not just forums but information as well as friendships.

So ............ although there were other forums TTFUK was the original total website package.

It must have been good ............. because the admin of this site copied it.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.