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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:56 am 
I can just imagine the scene, a dustbin with his feet in an easy chair guzzling his supper, tapping on his computer!

Give Scanner his wide berth his reaction is natural, perhaps he didnt know about the Dundee bundle

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So it has all gone to court and all been proved.... can you quote me the court cases?

As I have stated before, I do not condone illegal activity. I just get fed up with Sussexman commenting on almost EVERY subject. Especially when we all know his views and his aim.

Of course it is my choice to view these forums. I dont have to read all the items... But it gets so stale all the time. Its like reading through the last twelve months or so of the same thing over and over again.

Others may indeed welcome and support all the contributions given by Sussexman. He may be the greatest and most respected contributor on here. But, I will express my views that some comments churned around and around all the time.. BORING.

Perhaps it the limitation of the membership of forums such as this, But when I first heard about this one I thought. "Well, will this one be be different" I can tell you it isn't.


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scanner wrote:
So it has all gone to court and all been proved.... can you quote me the court cases?

As I have stated before, I do not condone illegal activity. I just get fed up with Sussexman commenting on almost EVERY subject. Especially when we all know his views and his aim.

Of course it is my choice to view these forums. I dont have to read all the items... But it gets so stale all the time. Its like reading through the last twelve months or so of the same thing over and over again.

Others may indeed welcome and support all the contributions given by Sussexman. He may be the greatest and most respected contributor on here. But, I will express my views that some comments churned around and around all the time.. BORING.

Perhaps it the limitation of the membership of forums such as this, But when I first heard about this one I thought. "Well, will this one be be different" I can tell you it isn't.


Scanner,
I can sympathise with nearly all your post, and I suppose I am guilty of it too.

until you say this site is no different.......

believe me take a look elsewhere.........this site IS different.

Wharfie


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:05 pm 
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scanner wrote:
So it has all gone to court and all been proved.... can you quote me the court cases?



The things is with the hire plates is that its difficult to prove because all the paperwork (registration document insurance etc) is done in the name of the plate holder and there are quite a few plate holders who have nothing to do with the trade and run a taxi but do it within the rules.

But where it has been proved then theres been no court case because none of them have the brass neck to go to court.

There have been a few cases of plate holders who live abroad keeping hold of plates in Dundee and have been challenged in the licensing committee. This included one former councillor who was living in Estonia.

But its just a question of inspecting the licensing register and investigating the circumstances of those who hold the plates - most in Dundee have nothing to do with the trade. But its difficult to prove that they are illegally hiring the palte rather than just running the taxi legally, but either way it stinks - do you support either scanner?

The council know well whats going on, they wouldn't have produced a report like that if they didn't.

And before anyone says something, none of these people have paid anything for the plate other than the normal council fees.


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scanner wrote:
Of course it is my choice to view these forums. I dont have to read all the items... But it gets so stale all the time. Its like reading through the last twelve months or so of the same thing over and over again.



Yes Mr Scanner, there is always an element of repitition in these kind of things, try reading any of the trade press, for example, at least there is a plurality of views on here.

I would agree that my own contributions include a large element of repitition, because the same old points come up time and time again, and therefore the same old points have to be wheeled out to counter them.

For example, we had a thread on Edinburgh the other week, the same old points and counter points, but if they're made, then are you saying that those with contrary views shouldn't counter them?

Indeed you yourself posted the same boring old counter-de-limitation views in another thread recently (from the STF's website), which have been made and countered on numerous occassions, so if they are countered again (which I will do shortly, sorry I forgot about your posts until I read this thread) then presumably you will consider this boring? It seems to me a simple matter of you not liking the arguments and trying to deflect the debate onto another matter, which in itself is another 'boring' old tactic on sites of this kind.

As for castigating those who post the same old views time and time again, then if people don't want to post or have nothing to say then I don't think they should criticise those who do - again this seems to be perverting the argument somewhat - I have no objection to people just reading and/or making the occassional post, but to castigate the more prolific posters seems a bit off.

And of course people will put forward the same old views - it wouldn't appear very credible if we were changing them all the time.

Everyone is entitled to their say, but to call viewpoints on issues 'boring' without even expressing a viewpoint on the issues yourself is a bit rich.

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scanner wrote:
Perhaps it the limitation of the membership of forums such as this, But when I first heard about this one I thought. "Well, will this one be be different" I can tell you it isn't.


Yes, let's face it, sadly only a tiny proportion of the trade contribute to such forums - a few more read, but it still isn't very many.

In what way would you expect any such site to be different? Our featured articles perhaps take a different stance from the normal stuff, but we've tried to encourage debate by including the forum so that everyone can express thier views.

For example we've had two articles each featuring Dundee and Brighton, cab firms and LAs in both locations have been e-mailed and asked to contribute views if they wanted to, but there has been little in the way of response - so what else would you like us to do??

In the interests of free speech the website also invited anyone with a view to contribute it and we would consider putting it on the frontpage, but again there has been no response - what else do you want us to do?

For example, if anyone from the TGWU is reading, then why not contribute something to our frontpage?

Our little project is very modest compared to things like Cab Trade News and PHM but in comparison I think, yes, it is different.

Dusty :|


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scanner wrote:
As I have stated before, I do not condone illegal activity. I just get fed up with Sussexman commenting on almost EVERY subject. Especially when we all know his views and his aim.


So you don't condone illegal activity, but it seems you don't like me condemning it. :?


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One can tend to get a little over sensitive sometimes. I suppose we all just make up our own minds on the different issues, from what we read coupled to our experiences of life.

Dundee has been one of the big stories in our trade recently, and it is therefore not surprising that we all have opinions based on it. Certainly I didnt read any of the posts as anyone being attacked personally. Just comment on the illegal practices apparently going on. And you dont have to live in Dundee to see it. It goes on almost everywhere in some degree or other. Clearly, such practices give weight to the argument for more delimitation, but greater regulation.

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Quote Dusty Bin

Indeed you yourself posted the same boring old counter-de-limitation views in another thread recently (from the STF's website),

That was not a "View" but a factual report and was not intended as a "counter-delimitaion".

And, a report that at least one person on here missed.

that is very interesting and information I had missed.

Wharfie


So, obviously worth while posting.


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Quote Wharfie
Scanner,
I can sympathise with nearly all your post, and I suppose I am guilty of it too.

until you say this site is no different.......

believe me take a look elsewhere.........this site IS different.



Well...we will see.... I will try to bypass the usual old rubbish and just "Scan" for the actual news and proven facts, which is mainly due to being far too busy actually working the cab.


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scanner wrote:
Well...we will see.... I will try to bypass the usual old rubbish and just "Scan" for the actual news and proven facts, which is mainly due to being far too busy actually working the cab.


That's very gracious of you !!!!


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You're welcome... although I am sure you will post back for the last word as usual.


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No, you can have the last word. :roll:


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No... no... please...you have the last word :wink:


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I tell you what, perhaps I will have the last word. :D :D :D :D

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